Wyoming LO tags on the table

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Yea as a resident I don’t like it. I have this and another bill I need to voice my opinion to senators about. Both see to be money grabs


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As already covered by others, it's a big difference if the tag is good off the landowner's land and the landowner doesn't allow hunting on their land with said sold tag.

Trespass fee is one thing. The actual tag is another. For one, it's a whole different revenue source but more importantly it can impact the access/availability/opportunity of the unwashed masses depending on what/where the tag is valid.

I have fewer gripes if a landowner tag is only valid on landowner's land.
Back in the day there was a loop hole in Colorado where you could buy a LO tag and use legal actions to hunt their land without permission. The good ole days
 
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Back in the day there was a loop hole in Colorado where you could buy a LO tag and use legal actions to hunt their land without permission. The good ole days
Can you please clarify? I'm interested in the loophole.

Just messing with you. It wasn't a loophole and it's still legal to this day I believe. If you buy a voucher, it grants access to the land that qualified the LO to apply for the voucher.

As to Wyoming and transferable LO tags I really don't care.
 
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I haven't checked lately, but I believe the current landowner tags in Wyo. are only good on the land of the rancher. My neighbor used to get 2 elk and 2 antelope tags and he and his wife only used them on his land fwiw.
Landowner tags are just regular LE (or reduced price) tags taken from the quota for that hunt area. Why would a private landowner want to hunt with the masses on public land when we all know the animals run to private on opening day?

I see the bigger problem with Wyoming landowner tags is in the hunt areas where a lot of landowners meet the eligibility requirements and all apply. That leaves fewer tags in the LE draw for residents and non-residents. If there is a financial incentive for the landowner then more would probably apply, further reducing the tags available to non landowners.
 

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Landowner tags are just regular LE (or reduced price) tags taken from the quota for that hunt area. Why would a private landowner want to hunt with the masses on public land when we all know the animals run to private on opening day?

I see the bigger problem with Wyoming landowner tags is in the hunt areas where a lot of landowners meet the eligibility requirements and all apply. That leaves fewer tags in the LE draw for residents and non-residents. If there is a financial incentive for the landowner then more would probably apply, further reducing the tags available to non landowners.
Yeah but really not a nonresident issue but for maybe a few thousand people.

If anything it may open up more access for a nonresident to get a tag.

Seems like a resident issue to me.
 
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Yeah but really not a nonresident issue but for maybe a few thousand people.

If anything it may open up more access for a nonresident to get a tag.

Seems like a resident issue to me.
I agree. I don't care what they decide.
I was just pointing out that the Wyoming landowner tag system does affect some areas more than others.
 

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While I'm generally opposed, I wouldn't be AS mad about it if landowners that got a unit wide tag had to allow access onto their property to other unit wide tag holders. Like New Mexico does.
 

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I need to inquire on this, but if I understand it correctly, this does matter to Non Residents.
For example hunt area ABC had 100 licenses, NR would get 16 of the 100, but landowner licenses are actually taken off the top first. So let's say 30 landowners get licenses, so now it's 70 licenses available to the general public, and only 11 would be available to Non residents because of those landowner licenses.

Do landowners take licenses today, yes, but definitely not all of them. If they can resell them to the highest bigger will beautifully all of them take landowner licenses going forward, definitely yes.

Resident or non resident, the way I see it, we bath have something to lose.
 

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Didnt i read somewhere the governor of New Mexico is going to be the new Governor of Wyoming soon? Like a wife swap scenario or something? Must have been true if they are talking about turning Wyoming tags into LO profit sharing like NM.
 

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This resident is not in favor at all and most I know are not either, not sure where what's his name gets his info.

Currently LO tags are valid for the entire area or region, not just private land.

Most of the LO I know are salt of the earth types of folks, not greedy. They do get tired of NRs wanting something from them for free though.

NM does this , CO does this but yet Wyoming is now greedy SOBs by some ???

The bill allows only the LO himself or herself to sell their license, not any other family members eligible for tags.

If this gets passed it should be for their deeded land only, the Freedom Caucus can kiss my you know what !!
 

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This resident is not in favor at all and most I know are not either, not sure where what's his name gets his info.

Currently LO tags are valid for the entire area or region, not just private land.

Most of the LO I know are salt of the earth types of folks, not greedy. They do get tired of NRs wanting something from them for free though.

NM does this , CO does this but yet Wyoming is now greedy SOBs by some ???

The bill allows only the LO himself or herself to sell their license, not any other family members eligible for tags.

If this gets passed it should be for their deeded land only, the Freedom Caucus can kiss my you know what !!
Just for the record, I have always thought of NM being Greedy SOB's on the LO tags for elk. 25-35k for UW Gila LO voucher!! Pretty much no question about greedy SOB's down there. CO not so much. Never saw many times the vouchers were sold for stupid money like down in NM>
 

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I need to inquire on this, but if I understand it correctly, this does matter to Non Residents.
For example hunt area ABC had 100 licenses, NR would get 16 of the 100, but landowner licenses are actually taken off the top first. So let's say 30 landowners get licenses, so now it's 70 licenses available to the general public, and only 11 would be available to Non residents because of those landowner licenses.

Do landowners take licenses today, yes, but definitely not all of them. If they can resell them to the highest bigger will beautifully all of them take landowner licenses going forward, definitely yes.

Resident or non resident, the way I see it, we bath have something to lose.

Correct, NR Landowners draw first.

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I think it's safe to say only a select group supports this and it's not R or NR hunters for the most part. It will affect access and licenses numbers for NRs and Rs.
 
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