Wyoming Elk General Tag vs LQ Tag

[Newk]

I think you are missing my primary point. Which, in all fairness, I didn't really make clear.

Point averaging is allowing fictitious point holders to displace actual humans that want to hunt.

This really isn't about Grandpa Joe with his 12 preference points allowing his grandson with 0 to average into a 6 point draw together and enjoy one last hooorah before Joe is pushing flowers......

This is about the guys who are doing the following:
Wife-10 points.
Kid 1- 10 points.
Kid 2 10 points.
Aunt-10 points.
Uncle Ron - 10 points.
Uncle Bob - 10 points
Dad- 10 points points.

Year 1 Dad hunts and burned his points on a nice LE hunt.

(GREAT. He got a nice bull and Wyoming will see him again in 10 years????)

NOPE!

Year 2 dad applies as a group (General season Elk 5 point average) with wife and wife doesn't hunt.
Year 3 dad applies as a group (General season Elk 5 point average) with Kid 1 and Kid 1 doesnt hunt.
Year 4 dad applies as a group (General season Elk 5 point average) with Kid 2 and Kid 2 doesn't hunt.
Year 5 dad applies as a group (General season Elk 5 point average) with Aunt and Aunt doesn't hunt.
Year 6 dad applies as a group (General season Elk 5 point average) with Uncle and Uncle doesn't hunt.
Year 7 dad applies as a group (General season Elk 5 point average) with wife and wife doesn't hunt.

This is the scenario that is playing out.

There is now 6 people being displaced in the draw who ACTUALLY want to hunt. This pushed point creep higher and higher.

Point averaging is a JOKE and people with money are gaming the system like a MF. If I had a ton of application money I would 100% could have been doing this for the last 15 years and been living the dream, hunting Wyoming yearly. Just pay for my groups general tag, and when I get it, toss it in the trash if they don't want it and go hunting.

How do you think people are able to hunt G every year as a NR? Think that's fair?

Maybe. Maybe not. I guess it really and truly depends on what end of the point spectrum you are sitting on.

young hunter here. didn't realize this was going on. makes me wonder about buying points every year (considering I will never catch up) when I personally could afford to just pay for landowner fees. although that would seem to take the adventure out of it.

 

[wapitibob]

young hunter here. didn't realize this was going on. makes me wonder about buying points every year (considering I will never catch up) when I personally could afford to just pay for landowner fees. although that would seem to take the adventure out of it.

If you're trying to "catch up", you'll be disappointed. Change your hunt expectations, apply for what you can draw, and go hunt. If you're set on a "high end" hunt only, that LO tag is probably the way.

 

[MallardSX2]

If you're trying to "catch up", you'll be disappointed. Change your hunt expectations, apply for what you can draw, and go hunt. If you're set on a "high end" hunt only, that LO tag is probably the way.

Well said and this is solid advice to anyone looking to start hunting out west.