Get either the 20-60 or the 25-50 eye piece. I have both. Have used the 20-60 for years and it works great. I have not used the 25-50 yet but I hear it makes a difference as far as wide angle. Either way they both are good, but with the 65 swaro it's hard to focus at higher magnification vs the 80 swaro. Would sell my 20-60 if interested. $350 shipped conus.