I’ve read a lot about the Wrangler pants and how they’re great for the value. I bought some a few years ago and they were not very impressive. However, I may have bought the wrong versions. When I go to the website now and see the Wrangler ATG, there are three different styles - Cliff Side Utility, Jackson Utility and Windward Utility. Please let me know what styles people have had the best success with, and I will give them another try.