Would You Take This Shot?

[Beendare]

Fwiw,

 

[Billy Goat]

I'd connect the dots and shoot for the crease, behind the black dot. That's still a double lung, that elk isn't quartering that hard. 25 yards, I can come really close to the hair I'm aiming at. I'm not scared of a frontal at all, killed several with it, but I don't think that one is facing me enough for it.


Arrow weight be damned. I'm of the opinion that you aren't building an arrow that is consistently shooting thru bone. An animal is too dynamic of a target, just their reaction to the shot and the weight they might or might not have on that bone can be a determining factor as to if it breaks or not.

 

[S.Clancy]

I've taken that shot, tho on a cow. I shot black dot, she died in 60 yards.

 

[Mighty Mouse]

So “Ashby says”, eh? HA!

How many elk has he killed exactly?
Has anyone actually seen photo evidence of anything Ashby has shot? . His EFOC theories he developed with straws and rubber bands got laughed out of existence by the Physics guys years ago.
See if you can dig up any actual proof- in 25 yrs Ive never seen it.


Ashby is the Bernie Madoff of Bowhunting. for a guy that supposedly shot hundreds and hundreds of animals (alive/dead) why has nobody ever seen a photo of an arrow in one?

Cameras probably weren't real common in the African Bush and Australian Outback in the 1980's & 90's, but here are 3 photos attributed to Ashby that I found within 5 minutes of Google searching.

Whether you agree with his advice or not, calling Ashby a con man is completely unwarranted.

 

[Still Hunter]

Old Indian saying " Shoot maybe... no shoot...no maybe..."


... Black dot and maybe a little higher than indicated but would probably actually wait for better shot angle . Have passed on this shot angle before in the past.

 

[Coveyleader]

Quick glance at the elk, I would have passed. Then I read and saw some advocating black dot, and see it would do the job. But for me, and I've killed a few with frontals, my initial reaction was to pass and I would have until he either got broadside, or angled towards me just a bit more.

 

[LostArra]

Nope

 

[Dos Perros]

Ashby is the Bernie Madoff of Bowhunting. for a guy that supposedly shot hundreds and hundreds of animals (alive/dead) why has nobody ever seen a photo of an arrow in one?

Because he always gets pass throughs. Duh.

 

[Laramie]

I have taken a couple just above the black dot. Both died inside of 80 yards. Both of my shots were under 20 yards.

 

[Nomadx2]

I would only take a shot on the black dot assuming once he looks straight forward he will open up his broadside more. I would pass on all 3 with his current position, too much risk with non-fatal wound.

 

[Btaylor]

ALWAYS look at where the exit is going to be. Then consider whether you'd take that same arrow path shot from the other side. And yes, I always do that even at the moment of the shot.

Exactly, see the path of the arrow and let the big dog eat.

 

[MTSasquatch]

Black

 

[cnelk]

Btw - that’s not considered a frontal shot

 

[Elkfitness]

I’d pass on that shot. He will move to present a better angle.


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[Anozira]

If you are comfortable with your equipment, Id sneak an arrow in right behind the shoulder bone. I took the same shot on this bull in 2019.

 

[mproberts]

Black dot... I took the same shot on a bull a few years back and he died within 50 yards of the shot. The picture shows the exit wound.

 

[Lure99]

At 25 yards black dot all day. I added a bit on stonewall's picture to show where the ribcage is, everything in the front of that is lungs so I'd be 100% confident in a kill shot.

 

[CMF]

I'm sending it all day out to 50! With my 480gr arrow. black dot or a hair right.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

Black brings one more thing to the table, he's going to run and that is going to cut the hell out of him if it didn't pass through.....and if it did....it matters not.

Yeah the shoulder/leg kicking that arrow around will turn the insides to a gelatinous goo in a hurry.

 

[Indian Summer]

BLACK hands down bow or gun. Although a bit higher wouldn’t hurt. More margin for error.