Would you buy this scope?

[The Guide]

I prefer at minimum an 18x on the higher end, but everything else looks great.

Reads first post on a 170+ page thread, quotes post and makes reply, and walks away. Classic fng...

Jay

 

[THLR]

If the glass and coatings are good, why would you need a sunshade?


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A sunshade with lenght about half the objective width (ie shorter than a normal sunshade) is quite good for rain.

 

[HuntHarder]

@Jake Larsen I have never used the THLR. I am going to try one of these scopes out, but if I am being honest, the reticle isn't my top reason. I don't shoot mils but I am willing to try one. Durable, reliable, good glass and not overly heavy are priority over the THLR for me. I know I am in the minority on this site, but I have killed just fine without it. I like the idea of an illuminated center dot only. I like the look at low power but honestly, rarely would shoot at that power.

Unlike a lot on here, the reticle has rarely, maybe never, been the issue between me killing and not killing. I used a green, illuminated moar this year at absolute first light and it was beautiful @ 260 yards.

At the end of the day, this is just another reliable scope with a reticle that some guys on here love. Maybe I will to after using it, . If guys don't wanna try it out because it's mil or they dont think they need the reticle, or it's too expensive, it just means more scopes for the guys that want to. In 6-8 months, hopefully we can test these things out and see if they are, what lots on here think they will be.

 

[1000yards]

This reticle has some elements which I don't yet understand, put there by some very smart men who are far more experienced than I am. Do I say hell no and stay in my bubble of ignorance, or do I approach it with an open mind and potentially become a better shooter and hunter? Hmmmm decisions, decisions.

 

[waspocrew]

I've only shot MOA, but I'm definitely intrigued by this and will try out the THLR reticle. It looks very clean, makes sense, draws the eye in and the scope appears to be very durable. Time will tell, but the initial reports sound awesome and very impressive for the $1k mark.

 

[Dobermann]

Hey guys, full transparency, I haven’t read through all 170 pages and I know everything in the scope was designed for a reason but why push button illumination? Seems like it’s getting harder and harder to find a scope with a nice rotary on/off every other detent style knob. Wasn’t sure if there was a particular reason for this. Thanks

Do you know you can do a keyword search using the 'This thread' from the drop-down menu? That way, you can search for all posts about illumination, or just 'button' by either Form or Ryan. That will give you the full answer.

 

[Dobermann]

If the glass and coatings are good, why would you need a sunshade?

As @THLR said above, handy for rain. But I've also found they can be good for sun in some contexts - rather than the sunlight falling directly on the objective lens and the coatings having to do their magic for that to not be (as big of) an issue, better to not have the light hit the glass to begin with.

For two counter reference points: I think Jacob once commented that sunshades might cause issues given the longer leverage on the tube, and Franks said that ARDs/honeycomb caps can actually also work to mitigate glare, while not being as long of an extension. YMMV.

 

[Dobermann]

This reticle has some elements which I don't yet understand, put there by some very smart men who are far more experienced than I am. Do I say hell no and stay in my bubble of ignorance, or do I approach it with an open mind and potentially become a better shooter and hunter? Hmmmm decisions, decisions.

To @1000yards (and anyone else) - there's a lot that can be learned about this reticle without even having it in hand.

I'd highly recommend reading the ZP5 eval (Minox ZP5 5-25x56mm THLR Field Eval) and Q&A threads (https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/q-a-for-minox-zp5-5-25x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/) - you'll pick up a lot.

I think I also posted here in the last week or so to work through all of @THLR's videos on the reticle - and then do it all over again.

@nm.otter, that legend, even posted a direct link to @THLR's playlist: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...5x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/page-11#post-4404919

Once again, Rokslide is now the largest repository on the internet about the THLR reticle ... if you read the descriptions of the subtensions, the use in practice, how it works as both a 'plain' mil reticle as well as effectively has BDC elements contained (if you want that) ... you can then get a good sense looking at some of Thomas and Form's images of the reticle over targets about what means what, and how you'd use it.

Part of the genius of Thomas's reticle is that you can put it in someone's hands, who knows nothing of the design, and they'll say things like 'This is great. It's clear, and intuitive' - while only knowing part of the functionality.

But once people know what the reticle is fully capable of, it's like scales are lifted from their eyes, and the reticle becomes something else ... it's like turning on 'advanced mode' or something.

 

[waspocrew]

To @1000yards (and anyone else) - there's a lot that can be learned about this reticle without even having it in hand.

I'd highly recommend reading the ZP5 eval (Minox ZP5 5-25x56mm THLR Field Eval) and Q&A threads (https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/q-a-for-minox-zp5-5-25x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/) - you'll pick up a lot.

I think I also posted here in the last week or so to work through all of @THLR's videos on the reticle - and then do it all over again.

@nm.otter, that legend, even posted a direct link to @THLR's playlist: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...5x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/page-11#post-4404919

Once again, Rokslide is now the largest repository on the internet about the THLR reticle ... if you read the descriptions of the subtensions, the use in practice, how it works as both a 'plain' mil reticle as well as effectively has BDC elements contained (if you want that) ... you can then get a good sense looking at some of Thomas and Form's images of the reticle over targets about what means what, and how you'd use it.

Part of the genius of Thomas's reticle is that you can put it in someone's hands, who knows nothing of the design, and they'll say things like 'This is great. It's clear, and intuitive' - while only knowing part of the functionality.

But once people know what the reticle is fully capable of, it's like scales are lifted from their eyes, and the reticle becomes something else ... it's like turning on 'advanced mode' or something.

Those threads were super helpful. For my smooth brain, this modified THLR seems to fit my style of shooting/hunting. Looking forward to eventually having one (or more) on my rifles.

 

[prm]

To @1000yards (and anyone else) - there's a lot that can be learned about this reticle without even having it in hand.

I'd highly recommend reading the ZP5 eval (Minox ZP5 5-25x56mm THLR Field Eval) and Q&A threads (https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/q-a-for-minox-zp5-5-25x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/) - you'll pick up a lot.

I think I also posted here in the last week or so to work through all of @THLR's videos on the reticle - and then do it all over again.

@nm.otter, that legend, even posted a direct link to @THLR's playlist: https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...5x56mm-thlr-scope.253284/page-11#post-4404919

Once again, Rokslide is now the largest repository on the internet about the THLR reticle ... if you read the descriptions of the subtensions, the use in practice, how it works as both a 'plain' mil reticle as well as effectively has BDC elements contained (if you want that) ... you can then get a good sense looking at some of Thomas and Form's images of the reticle over targets about what means what, and how you'd use it.

Part of the genius of Thomas's reticle is that you can put it in someone's hands, who knows nothing of the design, and they'll say things like 'This is great. It's clear, and intuitive' - while only knowing part of the functionality.

But once people know what the reticle is fully capable of, it's like scales are lifted from their eyes, and the reticle becomes something else ... it's like turning on 'advanced mode' or something.

Thanks for links. It had been a minute since reading these. I forgot the additional uses for the box and shoot long indicator. Doubt I’ll use much, but they aren’t obtrusive so no issue. I do like the wind references. The fact that it is a functional German #1 remains my favorite design element. I like simple things…