Would you buy this scope?

[Dobermann]

From all indications, the glass won't disappoint

No doubt. And what a bonus on top of a great rest of the package.

I'm hoping that people won't read about Tract's use of Schott glass and think that means Tract is somehow superior to this scope - or that glass is the most important consideration.

Thanks again for all of your work on this - I'm sure it's going to be worthwhile.

 

[eoperator]

Realistically hunting in my part of the country shots under 100 yards are more common than those over 2 and a 400 shot is a real unusual situation.

A 223, RS light, and a nice sub 20 oz (maybe getting close to 15 oz) scope gets real attractive.

For me the Trijicon accupoint 3-9 13.4oz ~$500 is king of the whitetail woods.

 

[Dobermann]

As well as different coatings.

I am simply trying to get a sense of what will be different than current market offerings.

No problem. Hoping the last few posts have helped with that ... there's also some good information in earlier posts about the DNA of the reticle, and I think some links to where the original THLR reticle was discussed in some ZP5 threads.

 

[Quandary]

No problem. Hoping the last few posts have helped with that ... there's also some good information in earlier posts about the DNA of the reticle, and I think some links to where the original THLR reticle was discussed in some ZP5 threads.

After doing a tiny bit of looking it does not appear that any Schott rifle scope glass is made in China.

 

[Ryan Avery]

No doubt. And what a bonus on top of a great rest of the package.

I'm hoping that people won't read about Tract's use of Schott glass and think that means Tract is somehow superior to this scope - or that glass is the most important consideration.

Thanks again for all of your work on this - I'm sure it's going to be worthwhile.

Marketing sure tricks a lot of people

Thanks, and I think it will be well worth the effort.

 

[Quandary]

If you have noticed, Form and I don't really care if the masses want it; if we want it, there are enough other people who will want it.

The scopes will be 3-18x44 sub 25oz and DURABLE. The reticle will be a hunting reticle, not a tacdafag reticle—low profile turrets with an elevation turret that stays put with a price tag that won't break the bank. The Maven has come the closest, but IMO, no scope has put this all together yet.

All that would be great! I am just wondering what you can do to spec out a different manufacturing process to make the scope more reliable than say a Tract or Maven using the same internals by the same manufacturer and not ending up with the weight of a Nightforce (or the crappy Nightforce reticles). Achieving this will yield a great product, I am simply curious as to how, which would lead me to wonder why all the other brands that use Light Optics don't do it.

 

[Ryan Avery]

All that would be great! I am just wondering what you can do to spec out a different manufacturing process to make the scope more reliable than say a Tract or Maven using the same internals by the same manufacturer and not ending up with the weight of a Nightforce (or the crappy Nightforce reticles). Achieving this will yield a great product, I am simply curious as to how, which would lead me to wonder why all the other brands that use Light Optics don't do it.

Test every scope..

 

[benconfused]

Legitimate question after listening to this weeks podcast, not throwing shade at all. Perhaps this is already buried somewhere in the 76 pages above. The scope is being built by Light Optics in Japan. Internals will likely be almost identical (if not idential) to the Tract 2.5-15 and the Maven RS1.2 (which are basically identical internally), both use good glass. Other than being 3-18 and likely a different reticle (?) how will this scope be different/differentiated?

Where was this weeks podcast posted? I only pay attention to youtube and haven't seen anything posted for a month.

 

[Bbell12]

While we’re all apparently offering suggestions, an illuminated reticle would be amazing for those of us who like to hunt predators at night.

 

[RockAndSage]

While we’re all apparently offering suggestions, an illuminated reticle would be amazing for those of us who like to hunt predators at night.

Last I heard, illumination was going to be on it, within the context of center dot that could/would be very dim, so as not to bleed all over the reticle or fry your night vision.

 

[Quandary]

Test every scope..

That's commitment!

 

[Quandary]

Where was this weeks podcast posted? I only pay attention to youtube and haven't seen anything posted for a month.

Shoot2Hunt Podcast posted Oct 21

 

[Fitz]

This is starting to sound like a Trijicon tenmile with a different reticle option but without the trijicon CS/warranty department. I hope this is successful and continue to make hunting specific scopes, the glaring hole in the market remains that reliable, <20oz, FFP, 3-12x scope.

 

[Ryan Avery]

This is starting to sound like a Trijicon tenmile with a different reticle option but without the trijicon CS/warranty department. I hope this is successful and continue to make hunting specific scopes, the glaring hole in the market remains that reliable, <20oz, FFP, 3-12x scope.

Warranty won't be a problem
Agree on the 3-12

 

[RockAndSage]

Warranty won't be a problem
Agree on the 3-12

Any idea on length yet?

 

[fwafwow]

I’m too lazy to listen to the podcast, and apologies if this has been stated, but has a release date been announced?

 

[benconfused]

Shoot2Hunt Podcast posted Oct 21

Guess they didn't post on Youtube. I see it now on apple.

 

[Quandary]

I’m too lazy to listen to the podcast, and apologies if this has been stated, but has a release date been announced?

It's amazing how many podcast you can listen to driving from Wisconsin to Colorado to New Mexico back to Colorado back to Wisconsin for a little hunting.

 

[blacktailcentral]

Very cool to see UM push the boundaries of the industry to give the hunting community better tools to be successful in the field.

 

[MuleyFever]

Very cool to see UM push the boundaries of the industry to give the hunting community better tools to be successful in the field.

Its hard to keep track but how are they pushing the boundaries exactly? At this point, from what I have gathered, they are making Trijicon with a different reticle.