Would you buy this scope?

[4th_point]

I haven’t noticed the veiling glare on my fixed 10 but it’s been used mostly for squirrels on my 17hmr in the middle of the day. I’ll have to see if it does it. I’d have a hard time believing it’s worse than the Schmidt Klassik I had. It was downright unusable at dusk/dawn if you zoomed past about the halfway mark.

Try a backlit hillside at sunrise or sunset.

 

[sz28]

That's right. Makes sense to anyone that's used it as many don't care for that scope on 3x.

I mean there's being wrong, and also admitting you were wrong, you did one.

 

[4th_point]

SWFA used to include a sunshade with the fixed powers but there's a bit of a sunshade built into the design.

You could try that sunshade if you get veiling glare. But I haven't found sunshades to be very helpful for backlit scenes.

 

[4th_point]

I mean there's being wrong, and also admitting you were wrong, you did one.

Sorry to get you fired up.

 

[sz28]

Sorry to get you fired up.

Not fired up boss, just poking fun.

 

[4th_point]

Not fired up boss, just poking fun.

Makes no difference to me.

What's your experience with HD and non-HD scopes from SWFA?

 

[sz28]

Makes no difference to me.

What's your experience with HD and non-HD scopes from SWFA?

I've only used their non-HD 10x. I have seen glare when shooting into the sun in early morning with the scope. It was annoying, but I was still able to make a shot. I haven't tried the 3-9, but I will pick up a non-HD 3-15 this year.

 

[4th_point]

I don't get any veiling glare from the 3-15x. It's really good in that regard.

The problem I have with the 3-15x is that I can't resolve any additional detail above ~12x. The image just gets bigger with some distortion or other weird optical effect.

Not a huge deal for big game but I was using the scope for LR rimfire on small targets.

I had one 3-15x from the very first release way back, and then a later one.

But I have not tried the Gen2.

When the Gen1 was about to be released, I discussed the scope with Chris Sr at SWFA. He was head honcho back then. Anyway, he say that the Classics were more robust than the HD but I think we were only talking about recoil and impacts and not the complete package.

With the Gen1 parallax mechanism, there's an o-ring around the housing that protects the guts but some knobs fell off where you could see some of the mechanism. It wasn't a very robust design but it might have been improved with Gen2.

ETA - the knob was easy to reinstall on one scope, just with the set screws. I saw it firsthand. I only heard about the others and it sounded like those knobs wouldn't go back on.

 

[wazzer12]

When??

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Eventually

 

[keystone112]

Got to be soon. I’m remembering on the S2H podcast they said they wanted to test the prototypes for the next shooting class. I’m hoping that will still happen this summer and we can all get our orders in soon after that.

 

[Formidilosus]

It is unlikely that Japan has them made before the summer classes. Best guess for now is by fall sometime.

 

[HNTR918]

Needs illumination to make it on my rifles.

 

[N2TRKYS]

Will the crosshairs cross on this scope or will it be a floating dot type setup like the Maven?

 

[The Fish Box]

Did I miss who’s making these or is it still a secret?

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Did I miss who’s making these or is it still a secret?

LOW is manufacturing. Name of brand on the scope hasn't been released

 

[bbckfh]

Will the crosshairs cross on this scope or will it be a floating dot type setup like the Maven?

It’ll be interesting to see?

They mentioned a modified THLR. Here’s the Minox version:

This would suggest a floating dot.

This, and the review of it associated with the Minox, seem pretty awesome and in line with what I’m looking for from a scope.

I’m a tiny bit bugged by the mission-creep of it now being 3.x-14, but c’est la vie.

Hope this helps?


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[N2TRKYS]

It’ll be interesting to see?

They mentioned a modified THLR. Here’s the Minox version:

This would suggest a floating dot.

This, and the review of it associated with the Minox, seem pretty awesome and in line with what I’m looking for from a scope.

I’m a tiny bit bugged by the mission-creep of it now being 3.x-14, but c’est la vie.

Hope this helps?


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It does help and allows me to look elsewhere. The floating dot is alright for a target scope, but ain’t worth a flip as a hunting scope for me.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Dobermann]

I’m a tiny bit bugged by the mission-creep of it now being 3.x-14, but c’est la vie.

Curious as to why 14x vs 12x 'bugs' you? It's still a less than 5x erector ratio ...

 

[bbckfh]

Well, I think the answer to that is somewhat multifactorial.

I also want to caveat my statement my clarifying that it only “bugs” me to a very little degree.

Based on my prior readings, I have a perception that a higher zoom ratio is less reliable. Based to my prior experience, I think it is certainly harder to get a good eye box with a higher zoom ratio. I think that the erector systems take more space, leaving less travel.

But I’m not an optics engineer, so I can stand to be corrected.

I use my scope as a sighting device, not an observation device. Higher mag enables increased precision to a small degree. Higher mag undoubtedly diminishes FOV. I appreciate those who would shoot >1k, but I fear that even with astronomical BCs, drift is too real to guarantee painless success at much over 750 in field conditions. And if I’m honest and not succumbing to internet braggadocio, I personally limit myself to 600.

I don’t need >12x for 600 m.

Bottom line: less “is” (I assume) lighter, more reliable and leaves space for other design constraints. I’d far prefer a light scope to a higher-mag one.


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