Wolves are bad???

[journeyman713]

Turns out wolves might just not be so great after all. Shocker.
What a dilemma for the tree hugging State.

California wolf problem

 

[justin davis]

There is a reason we eliminated them back in the day

 

[MD97756]

No!?!! Say it isn’t so!!! An apex predator at the top of the food chain is a problem? I’m in Oregon, they pretend wolves aren’t a problem here too

 

[Hondo64d]

They are neither good nor bad. They just need to be population managed like any other game animal.

John

 

[Ouzel]

not giving any support by any means to an introduction, but the moving of known stock killing wolves from the Rez in Oregon to Colorado, so the Feds could circumvent their own rules was a recipe for disaster. Fortunately the second request for wolves was denied, and now the attempt to bring more from BC is being shot down.
Thank you Brian Nesvik, wish you could have done more for Wyoming when you held the reins there, but unfortunately your hands were tied pretty tight by the Feds at that time.

 

[7RemMag]

There is a reason we eliminated them back in the day

All manner of species were eliminated and extirpated from parts of, or the entirety of their native range for all kinds of reasons “back in the day”. Our nation was still growing at a rapid pace , and the understanding of the natural world even a few decades ago was not what it is today.

The “reason” wolves were nearly eradicated was for the same reason that they aren’t wanted on the landscape today by a certain demographic. They were an inconvenience. Particularly at a time when our forefathers did away with virtually anything that was an inconvenience with little regard for what might or might not be even a few years into the future. There was very little foresight applied to much of anything. Now we’re paying for it.

I don’t agree with a lot of the policy relating to apex predators in this country. It’s a pipe dream, but I do believe that if both sides of this issue would cooperate, a very reasonable management plan, or rather plans, could be adopted that could work really well for all parties. Unfortunately, neither side is really willing to cooperate, and so we end up with situations like this one. Everyone could win, but instead noone and nothing does. Comments like this one don’t really help either.

 

[displacedtexan]

They are neither good nor bad. They just need to be population managed like any other game animal.

John

Exactly.

Turning loose an apex predator with no management or fear of man is just asking for problems.

Shocker, they are creating problems.

In other big news, meth is bad for you.

 

[displacedtexan]

All manner of species were eliminated and extirpated from parts of, or the entirety of their native range for all kinds of reasons “back in the day”. Our nation was still growing at a rapid pace , and the understanding of the natural world even a few decades ago was not what it is today.

The “reason” wolves were nearly eradicated was for the same reason that they aren’t wanted on the landscape today by a certain demographic. They were an inconvenience.

I don’t agree with a lot of the policy relating to apex predators in this country. It’s a pipe dream, but I do believe that if both sides of this issue would cooperate, a very reasonable management plan, or rather plans, could be adopted that could work really well for all parties. Unfortunately, neither side is really willing to cooperate, and so we end up with situations like this one. Everyone could win, but instead noone and nothing does.

I for one don’t mind that there are wolves on the landscape provided there is a sensible management strategy including regulated hunting where applicable. Livestock producers shouldn’t have their hands tied when predators are killing their livestock. All living creatures were put on this earth to be utilized as a resource and serve a purpose. Wolves are no different just because they’re cute and cuddly.

And I bet a compromise plan would allow for wolves in more places.

Because they could be managed to not be the problem they currently are for some people.

 

[7RemMag]

And I bet a compromise plan would allow for wolves in more places.

Because they could be managed to not be the problem they currently are for some people.

I apologize. It seems you quoted my comment before I did some extensive editing.

I absolutely agree. That “M” word is critical, and there are individuals who don’t feel that any management should be done, and there are those that feel that “management” equates to seeking eradication. The ideal scenario is neither of those.

 

[journeyman713]

The proponents of wolves, are just a bit too insulated from the hard truth, and of course they feel qualified to manage it too. Then 70 cattle get eaten, from one ranch, or a herd of wildlife gets decimated.

I'd like to see the expression on their faces when, Fluffy gets taken out, because when they got what they asked for, it was supposed to be, in someone else's neighborhood.