How can I get one of those 10% off coupons? I'm thinking of buying the same rifle.
Will tariffs impact imported firearm price?
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Well shit, glad I don’t need anything really bad. But man, thinking of buying another tikka and more ammo just because.And get ready for ammo shortages and substantial price increases...
Example 1 - PMC from South Korea was hit with a 25% tariff and is a major supplier of the most popular options for 5.56/223 ammo, as well as 9mm and many other calibers. This tariff increases the cost to 1000 rounds of 5.56 by about $100, and 1000 rounds 9mm about $50. At that point they simply cannot compete in the market against US manufacturing and most likely would slowly exit the market over the next year with the most popular products drying up first. Also, PMC's mother company, Poongsan Corporation, supplies US ammo manufacturers with a huge portion of copper strip used to make ammunition, which will drive up cost of US manufactures.
Example 2 - Prvi Partizan in Serbia was hit with a 37% tariff, and is a key supplier of metric rifle calibers, economical handgun ammo, and 5.56 FMJ ammo. This 37% tariff, if it holds, will totally force them out of business and you will see this manufacturer totally exit the US market over the next 6 months.
Example 3 - Igman in Bosnia, a key supplier of 7.62x39 and 7.62x51 ammo was hit with a 36% tariff, which increases the cost of 1000 rounds of 7.62x39 by about $180. No one will import it at all if this cost is added.
Example 4 - Sellier & Bellot in the EU (Czech Republic) was hit with a 20% tariff. This drives the cost of their basic 9mm FMJ ammo up $40 per 1000 and affects other products in a similar way, and at that point they cannot compete in the market on many popular products.
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I emailed a couple weeks ago and got the stainless 6.5prc for $599 plus shipping
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I'm not sure! I got it in an email as like a bounce back coupon.
And get ready for ammo shortages and substantial price increases...
Example 1 - PMC from South Korea was hit with a 25% tariff and is a major supplier of the most popular options for 5.56/223 ammo, as well as 9mm and many other calibers. This tariff increases the cost to 1000 rounds of 5.56 by about $100, and 1000 rounds 9mm about $50. At that point they simply cannot compete in the market against US manufacturing and most likely would slowly exit the market over the next year with the most popular products drying up first. Also, PMC's mother company, Poongsan Corporation, supplies US ammo manufacturers with a huge portion of copper strip used to make ammunition, which will drive up cost of US manufactures.
Example 2 - Prvi Partizan in Serbia was hit with a 37% tariff, and is a key supplier of metric rifle calibers, economical handgun ammo, and 5.56 FMJ ammo. This 37% tariff, if it holds, will totally force them out of business and you will see this manufacturer totally exit the US market over the next 6 months.
Example 3 - Igman in Bosnia, a key supplier of 7.62x39 and 7.62x51 ammo was hit with a 36% tariff, which increases the cost of 1000 rounds of 7.62x39 by about $180. No one will import it at all if this cost is added.
Example 4 - Sellier & Bellot in the EU (Czech Republic) was hit with a 20% tariff. This drives the cost of their basic 9mm FMJ ammo up $40 per 1000 and affects other products in a similar way, and at that point they cannot compete in the market on many popular products.
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The ol Sam Gabbert "I'm just shooting it to you straight" email, the same Sam Gabbert that canceled customer orders of 7.62x39 ammo around the time of the Russia import bans and then relisted at a much higher price.
Not saying there won't be tariff effects on guns and ammo, but there isn't a lot of light between Sam Gabbert "telling it like it is" and Sam Gabbert trying to move ammo.
I can't speak to Sam Gabbert's honesty, integrity or motivations and I'm not here to defend the man's character. I've never had any personal interaction with him. Is he fear mongering to "move ammo" or is he giving his honest opinion based on his experience in the ammo business? I don't know. Readers will have to judge for themselves. His examples of what could happen seem reasonable to me.
All I know is that SGAmmo has been my go-to source for online ammo since 2019, and I have had nothing but very positive experiences. They seem to have good selection and prices, very fast and free shipping (for orders over $200), and the packages have always shown up in great shape. That last one is important to me because I can't say that about all online ammo retailers...I've received some packages from well-known retailers where the ammo boxes were loose in the box (very little or no bubble wrap, popcorn, etc. to secure/protect the ammo) and the ammo boxes inside were crushed, torn, etc. I will continue to buy from SGAmmo and recommend them to friends/family.
Just my experience...YMMV.
Thank you.
Well of course. And yes, it’ll affect things the moment a product enters the country after the tariff goes into effect.
That said, a 25% tariff is NOT going to result in a 25% price increase. The tariff is applied to the price paid BY THE IMPORTER. Beretta USA is the importer of tikkas for instance. Even if msrp is $879 on that tikka, thats not what beretta USA pays for that tikka. The gun retailer makes a margin when they sell it at 879. Then beretta usa makes a margin on it when they sell it to the retailer. And there may even be another layer of margin in there if there is a distributor in between beretta and the retailer. I dont know what the margins normally are in that industry, but suffice to say the prices will surely go up as a result, but they absolutely dont usually go up 20% as a result of a 20% tariff.
That said, a 25% tariff is NOT going to result in a 25% price increase. The tariff is applied to the price paid BY THE IMPORTER. Beretta USA is the importer of tikkas for instance. Even if msrp is $879 on that tikka, thats not what beretta USA pays for that tikka. The gun retailer makes a margin when they sell it at 879. Then beretta usa makes a margin on it when they sell it to the retailer. And there may even be another layer of margin in there if there is a distributor in between beretta and the retailer. I dont know what the margins normally are in that industry, but suffice to say the prices will surely go up as a result, but they absolutely dont usually go up 20% as a result of a 20% tariff.
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Lee_R
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Hopefully your comment is in jest? If not, please enlighten me how raising the standard tax deduction for all filers and lowering the tax brackets for everyone is a "billionaire tax cut"? Nearly half the adults in this country pay zero federal income tax and those seem to be the ones (along with the socialists) complaining that those of us paying taxes actually get a bit of relief.
coast range
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Met with my accountant today, my wife and I are not rich at all. We are in the 23k to 90k bracket federal tax is 12%. 10% in the bracket below and 22% in the bracket above.
I’m not sure where you are getting you tax info
Citing information that was a talking point for Mit Romney. The most recent available data is 31% for 2022, a ways away from nearly half, but nearly a third. Romney was pulling on the worst year on record since 1980 (2009), when recession drove incomes down enough that fewer people earned enough to own federal income tax.
Supreme Court strikes down Trump’s sweeping tariffs, upending central plank of economic agenda
The Supreme Court has struck down President Donald Trump’s far-reaching global tariffs, handing him a significant loss on an issue crucial to his economic agenda.
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500bil is now needed to be repaid by our gov to the overseas companies. But who paid the tarrif at the end of the day? Us.....the consumer of the now more expensive tarrifed goods. We'll never see this money that we're owed, nor will prices return to pre-tariff levels. We double phucked.
Most tariffs were probably directly paid by the US based importer, not the exporting company. So most refunds will probably go to US companies.
Consumers will likely see no refund in most cases (unless they imported directly and kept the paperwork).
I agree, prices probably will not come down. In part due to none tariff inflation. Just look at the stock market, if redenominated in foreign currency it has only gained around 1% in value over the past year (I think that was based on the S&P 500, but not certain off the top of my head), but in USD it has had a good bull run. The weakening dollar is inflation, which based on the market is north of 15% for 2025.
Of course economics are complicated, that is my lay person assessment.
POTUS says refunds will take years to litigate, AKA the US government breaking the law and after the constitutional process for redress is followed saying, 'the damaged caused should be water under the bridge guys, give us a mulligan'.
Plus, now applying a 10% global tariff using a different statute, which may or may not result in another year of collecting illegal tariffs (I expect litigation and the courts will have to adjudicate the legality).
You need to distinguish adults in this country vs households. Many people are a single income family. Sometimes this is one person. Sometimes its 2 people. Sometimes its 2 people with kids. One works and one takes care of the kids. Sometimes its 2 people with adult children who are in or not in college and do not work. People who are retired, unemployed, and social security disability are also adults.
That explains why he is saying half of us adults do not work. Its likely higher than that.
As to the tax cuts for working class.
The standard deduction for single filers and for married people filing jointly both increased this year. That means less of the income was taxed. The ammount of money one makes to be in a tax bracket increased as well. That means more of your income is taxed at a lower rate. You say you are in the 12% tax bracket. This is inaccurate. You dont fit in a tax bracket. Married filing jointly only the ammount of money of your adjusted gross income over 23,850 is in the 12% bracket. The first 23849 of your income is taxed at 10%. This is of your adjusted gross income, after claiming standard deduction, or compiled deductions, after paying health insurance, 401k, health savings that are all non taxable and minus the child tax credit. Its quite possible to make 80k, pay for insurance, have a few kids, and only have a few thousand dollars taxed in the 12% bracket.
Now you sum up your lack of familiarity with tax code the best when you sate for two people filing jointly with an INCOME under 90k your paying an accountant to calculate your taxes. Its middle school level reading and math skills.
If we did it would be taxed on the next years income. Likely at capital gains rates.There goes our tariff check that we were never going to get anyway!
