Will 6 Creedmoor go the way of 7 SAUM?

[Refugium]

Just picked this up today. The SAAMI .183 freebore seems to accommodate the heavier bullets adequately. We’ll see how it shoots soon enough.
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Sweet.

Post count…..

My bad. Newb here obviosly.

 

[Refugium]

Just heard from nm.otter on the Tikka 6 Creed thread that T3X Lites are now posted on the Tikka website. There is hope!

 

[Refugium]

Multi-quote is your friend...

Heard. Also just saw your update on the Tikka 6 Creed thread. Thanks for being on top of that and for the hand-holding! I'm first in line for a 20" T3X Lite! Hopefully they don't do something dumb like only offer it in Europe.

 

[nm.otter]

just saw your update on the Tikka 6 Creed thread. Thanks for being on top of that

Actually @jmac42 posted it first -- in another thread.

 

[Aperventure]

I'm seeing 6cm offerings all over the place, and no real comparison to 7saum at all. I really like my 6cm, its an excellent cartridge that improves in some ways on the perennially popular .243

Do you mind elaborating on what ways the 6cm improves on the 243? I am considering both and the 25cm for my next rifle

 

[Marbles]

Do you mind elaborating on what ways the 6cm improves on the 243? I am considering both and the 25cm for my next rifle

30 degree shoulder, so less brass stretch when reloading.

Correct throat length for heavies, so don't need to spec a custom throat.

If you don't reload, availability of heavies in factory loads.

More efficient use of powder. Should be able to get the same or better velocity from the 6 Creed with the same bullets despite the slightly smaller case. Some of this is a higher SAAMI pressure spec, if reloading and running hot, the straighter walls of the Creed hide pressure better.

The 243 likely feeds slightly better and is more reliable on extraction if running loads too hot.

The differences are small, and not life changing, but enough I just spun on a 6 creed barrel rather than sticking with a fast twist 243 even though it meant getting new dies and brass.

A fast twist 243 with handloads works fine. I wasted a lot of mental effort trying to convince myself to stay with the 243 to avoid the rainbow Creedmoor flag. Considered a 6 GT (Gay Tiger) even. Eventually decided the creed case was the capacity I want for a short barreled 6 mm.

The 25 creed is cool, but with the heave 6 mm bullets I would personally prefer 6 mm over 25.

The cartridges I would like to play with for case capacity to bore ratio are:
22 GT
6 Creed
25 PRC (using 6.5 PRC case)

None of them are different enough to need the difference, it would just be fun.

 

[turbobrick]

Do you mind elaborating on what ways the 6cm improves on the 243? I am considering both and the 25cm for my next rifle

243 is a great cartridge, 6cm gets you the faster twist and better handling of higher BC projectiles. A fast twist 243 is right there with 6cm.

 

[RME]

Correct throat length for heavies, so don't need to spec a custom throat.

You're right, twist rate is mostly what gets talked about but the throat design/dimensions are much improved IMO in the Creedmoors compared to their older SAAMI spec counterparts.

SAAMI 243 Throat


SAAMI 6 CM Throat

 

[Aperventure]

Thanks for the replies! this is awesome. Thanks for helping with gathering info to inform my decisoin.

with my desire to purchase off the shelf factory ammo & off the shelf rifle that can be around 8lb total weight with a light recoil cartridge to shoot repeatibly & accurately to take down an elk up to 550 yards (basically across small canyon) which I understand will require the heavy for caliber bullets at least 2000fps, combined with the new information about a 6mm Tikka from EuroOptic it appears the decison is easy.

I just could never get comfortable enough with my 300 win mag across canyon since it sucks to shoot at the range. this forum has been awesome to inform the lighter recoiling cartridge & caliber decisions!

If you don't reload, availability of heavies in factory loads.

Should be able to get the same or better velocity from the 6 Creed with the same bullets despite the slightly smaller case.

The 243 likely feeds slightly better and is more reliable on extraction if running loads too hot.

A fast twist 243 with handloads works fine. I wasted a lot of mental effort trying to convince myself to stay with the 243 to avoid the rainbow Creedmoor flag.

The 25 creed is cool, but with the heave 6 mm bullets I would personally prefer 6 mm over 25.

243 is a great cartridge, 6cm gets you the faster twist and better handling of higher BC projectiles. A fast twist 243

is right there with 6cm.

Late May-ish.
Soon as I get catalog data and pricing ill have them on the site, I'll post it in this thread 1st

anybody who wants the first one is gonna have to wrestle me for it

 

[B Harrison]

I just started with a 6 CM in a Seekins PH3.
It’s the easiest rifle I own to shoot tiny groups fast.

It makes me giggle it’s so easy to hit small targets.

I can’t wait to start fine tuning.
Hornady Blacks are reasonable price, and shoot 3/8” beside the Federal 107’s .
Same point of aim, as fast as I could send them.

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