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The QAD Exodus heads are a 1 1/4" cut 3 blade, and they are just about bulletproof. I've put a lot of these heads through a lot of plywood tests, and they have impressed me over the years. Hard to beat them. I believe the Slick Trick GrizzTrick 2s are a 1 1/4 x 1 1/4" 4 blade, so thats a big hole in something. I might even have 1 or 2 of these laying around from testing that I'd send you. Shoot me a PM if interested
 
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I am always looking for wider fixed blade heads of high quality steel. One of the challenges in making a head like that is that if they are truly top tier tool steel, and they are machined from a singe chunk of steel, the cylinder of steel they have to start out with is REALLY expensive.

Bishop makes a 500 gr one called the BloodFloodz--it is a BEAST--1.5" cutting diameter 3 blade. Its on my YouTube Channel.

SIK just released the F4 and I just did a vid review on it (Lusk Archery Adventures), it is just like a Solid Legend, but is 1.35" cutting diameter.

The Solid Legend 125 grain is 1 3/8" with a 3/4" bleeder. That is really nice size for a fixed blade. Again, they can do it cause its not machined from a single piece of steel.

I also just tested the Tooth of the Arrow XL. It is a true 4 blade design that is 1 3/16. It is a solid chunk of high carbon steel and made an incredible hole in a steel plate. It held together about as well as any head I've tested.
 
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German kinetic or grizzly xl. If you really have a heavy setup the xxl would do the job even better but I’ve haven’t heard of many guys using it. If you still don’t get much blood at least they’ll go down faster..in theory.
 

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My .02 cents, the wider the fix blades the more they are going to steer the arrows so any breakdown in form will show greatly on point of impact. I'd go with 2'' mechanical or just focus more on hitting the heart and not needing much of a blood trail. IMO
 

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My .02 cents, the wider the fix blades the more they are going to steer the arrows so any breakdown in form will show greatly on point of impact. I'd go with 2'' mechanical or just focus more on hitting the heart and not needing much of a blood trail. IMO
I hunt Idaho, mechanicals are a no go, and even if they were, I wouldn't use em.

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VPA were the least consistent fixed blade I've tried (non-vented) . My bad shots would always miss by much more than other heads. Even though they spun perfectly.

Had much better luck with Wac 'em, Shuttle T, Solid.

I'm tempted to run the Rage Trypan this year. But, I am sending a 505 grain arrow at 275-280 fps...
 

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I'm curious what people think is important, just cutting width or total cut. I think both should be considered.
Examples:

1. 1 1/16 main blade with 3/4" bleeder (1.812 inches total cut- Iron Will)
2. 1 1/4 inch 2-blade (1.25 inches total cut)
3. 1 3/8 inch 2-blade (1.375 inches total cut)
4. 1 1/4 inch 3-blade (1.875 inches total cut)

#1 is considered small by many, but has a total cut greater than #2 & #3 and very similar to #4. Thoughts?
 

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Good question Bill. I think for me it comes down to experience with heads. I have shot multiple 3 blade mech heads all 1.5" cutting diameter and I can tell you without question the best performing on deer have been spitfire's. A couple others yielded equal or nearly equal bloodtrails but did not put deer on the ground as fast when comparing equal hits. I have shot multiple 3 blade fixed heads of the same cutting diameter and found similar results. They all work but for for reasons I am not able to explain or quantify certain heads just perform better for certain people.

People tend to have strong opinions on broadheads but not nearly all of those opinions are backed by relevant experience.

What I generally am looking for is a well constructed head that will fly well, is stupid sharp or easy to get there, but most importantly yields consistently good blood trails AND puts game down quick. After that for many it comes down to economics. Some of the placedsI hunt are very rocky and more times than not a fired arrow whether a miss or pass through is going to encounter rock. I am not going to shoot a head like yours or the original silver flames I have in that environment because doing so could result in a broadhead bill that would be excessive to my budget.

Again just my opinion on the matter but I think folks would be well served to approach head decisions by evaluating what head they feel gives them the highest odds of creating passthroughs, will yield a good blood trail, flys well, is scary sharp and puts game on the ground quickly when we as hunters do our part in making a good shot. Being able to answer those questions only comes from killing experience.
 
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Sometimes I think people put way too much thought into this.

Anybody else remember the days when muzzy and thunderheads were considered "technology"? That pretty much narrowed down your choices unless you wanted to stick to the old reliable bear, Magnus, or zwicky. I even found a couple of Pearson deadheads the other day and sharpened one up....just in case I got a wild hair this year.

I wonder if 200 years ago there were some dudes sitting around a campfire discussing the idea of knapping the edge of the flint broadheads an 1/8" wider so they could get better blood trails, while continuing to argue the case for decreased penetration?

Probably so.....
 

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Just bought 6 new broadheads from Steel Force. Their American Muscle broadhead in 100 gr. It's a 2 blade set @ 1 3/8" with 7/8" bleeders. Main blades have some pretty awesome serration set in a single bevel design.

Definitely excited to try them out next to my current favorite Magnus killer bees.
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My experience is that the wider cut just provides a larger area for blood to escape. Total cut does mean that there's less support from the hide for the area of the hole but if it's not that wide, I just haven't had very good blood trails with such things. Much better blood from wider heads with less total cut. I'm of the opinion that wider fixed blades perceptions are strongly influenced by peoples ability to ensure their setups are flying perfectly. How many bowhunters have bought a bow at a shop, got a quick tune as point of sale and really never re-checked arrow flight/made adjustments as things settle, etc. This will lead to all sorts of broadhead flight issues and a smaller head can to some extent, minimize these things. So I think that's kept the general mass fixed head width where it's at.
 
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