Why do we buy soft shells?

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Something I’ve been wondering. Why do we buy soft shell jackets? And I say “we” because there’s obviously a market for them. It seems like every time I’ve purchased one, I’ve regretted it because they’re too heavy and not very versatile. Am I missing something on soft shells that I haven’t figured out yet?
 

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Good question…

Another one…grid fleece jacket? Why not a puffy? They’re lighter and compress down to almost nothing. Fleece, while warm, is a lot more bulky, especially in a pack when it’s time to take it off.
 

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I actually think that soft shells are my favorite clothing top in general. The key is they’re very situational.

Meaning: I love them for around town, for taking walks with the dog and kids, and for skiing in certain weather. They’re a jack-of-all-trades garment.

I hate them for anything backpacking, though, because they don’t do anything great.
 

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I've never owned a soft shell.


Puffy's are fine when stationary, but they're loud and don't do well with sweat when on the move. A fleece is still light, breathes well, quiet, and stays dry. Great for while on the move and it's cold out.
Do people really decide between the two? I almost always wear a grid fleece (usually lightweight) and then keep a puffy for the really cold days or while glassing.
 

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I used to love my soft shell.....but it isn't really a soft shell by today's definition (old Sitka 90% jacket). These days I find myself with a pull over grid fleece, puffy and a hard shell. That pretty much takes me through the whole year. My 90% jacket is there for some situations but not as many as before I got my puffy. I still love my 90% pants though!
 

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I've never owned a soft shell.


Puffy's are fine when stationary, but they're loud and don't do well with sweat when on the move. A fleece is still light, breathes well, quiet, and stays dry. Great for while on the move and it's cold out.
When I’m moving I’m usually in a long sleeve merino, down to below 0. I run hot when I’m huffing and puffing. I bought a grid fleece from mtn ops so I’ll give your suggestion a try!
 

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Gues I'm in the minority.

Killed alot of critters in mine during the archery season. Can cover alot differnt spectrums on the weather scale with the proper layers.
I don’t archery hunt, so I miss the early season weather. The issue for me with a softshell hunting is I’m often stuck in no man’s land: too hot with it and too cold without it. That’s why I prefer other layers.
 

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Good question…

Another one…grid fleece jacket? Why not a puffy? They’re lighter and compress down to almost nothing. Fleece, while warm, is a lot more bulky, especially in a pack when it’s time to take it off.
Them’s fightin’ words right there. I live in my hooded grid fleece all fall. Partly because of my shaved head. Always having a hood on hand is so nice.
 
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hmmmmm.

they have there place IMO.

i concede the argument against them is compelling And when I am counting ounces, mine rarely make the cut. They are the classic Jack of all trades, master of none. Not waterproof, not super breathable, not that warm, somewhat heavy.

However, I think you can cover a lot of weather conditions with a soft shell. They may not be the lightest options but they are versatile. For anything 30-60*, moderate wind, light rain, mine do great. If things are hotter, colder, windier, wetter, I go with other options. I also think they shine when it comes to durability and they have an edge on noise. I wear mine in brush that would shred a puffy and where rain gear would be crazy loud. Mine see most use on day hunts and shorter backcountry trips. I have a kuiu guide jacket that rides in my truck as a grab it option.
 
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I actually think that soft shells are my favorite clothing top in general. The key is they’re very situational.

Meaning: I love them for around town, for taking walks with the dog and kids, and for skiing in certain weather. They’re a jack-of-all-trades garment.

I hate them for anything backpacking, though, because they don’t do anything great.
Funny you mention that. We just got back from Wyoming, found a nice looking softshell at a Sportsman's for like $40 and grabbed it. Ski'd all day the next day in it, worked great. I'm not sure I'll ever hunt with it but it could work in the right setting.
 

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Funny you mention that. We just got back from Wyoming, found a nice looking softshell at a Sportsman's for like $40 and grabbed it. Ski'd all day the next day in it, worked great. I'm not sure I'll ever hunt with it but it could work in the right setting.
I ski in mine a lot. Only if there is lots of wet precipitation or suuuuper cold do I move to a hardshell. The softshell handles snow flurries and moderate wind decent enough.
 

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I still haven't discovered why people like pullovers so much? Having a zipper is so much more versatile to be able to put it on over your bino harness/remove it, regulate temps etc. What am I missing other than they are a tiny bit lighter with no zipper? Why do you like a pullover? - not meant to derail thread!
 

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I still haven't discovered why people like pullovers so much? Having a zipper is so much more versatile to be able to put it on over your bino harness/remove it, regulate temps etc. What am I missing other than they are a tiny bit lighter with no zipper? Why do you like a pullover? - not meant to derail thread!
Pullovers are stupid haha. Zipper all the way.
 
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Good question…

Another one…grid fleece jacket? Why not a puffy? They’re lighter and compress down to almost nothing. Fleece, while warm, is a lot more bulky, especially in a pack when it’s time to take it off.
I do both. The grid fleece layers I use are pretty bomb proof when moving through brush. I would never take my puffy through some stuff that I’d go through in the fleece.
 
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