Who is ready to DELETE Facebook?

[jmez]

When the idiots on the right do idiotic things, they point their idiotic fingers at the idiots on the left.

That's correct, but it is only half the story.

 

[FLAK]

No. I don't think you understand what you are up against. I don't think you understand Marxism and the people who are neurologically wired to influence other people. They can't leave you alone. They never will. Marxism is hell on Earth.

No, I understand. Just pointing out the mind set of those people. They must control everybody.
It' just Evil.

 

[FLAK]

Do you think he did that? And the left is always condemning so-called conspiracy theories from the right........SMH. Watch his speech.........never did he do such a thing. Now, could he have organized a group on FB or the dark web to do that? Who knows? But apparently the left doesn't operate on conspiracy theories.........where's the proof. The leftist media kept spouting "Trump's claims of election fraud.......without any evidence", when there was plenty of evidence abounding........even provided by these states themselves. States even claimed themselves that they changed the election laws without their own state legislatures doing it.......that's not Constitutional, and in the wake of an election........fraud. But when it comes to "proof" to charge Trump for inciting a riot.......they apparently don't need any. He'll be charged and impeached by leftist and establishment opinion.

Trump's rally had nothing to do with Biden's inauguration.......that's not until the 20th. The rally was to protest the certification of the elector's results. They didn't even need Trump for that, the problems with the election were pretty obvious to all even if Trump didn't exist.

They didnt want the Truth to be revealed.
Just remember, darkness is everywhere but it will not prevail.

 

[shoeshineman]

I think you are certainly onto something there. I keep thinking about this story (below). An active duty commissioned officer, with presumably a high level security clearance, and a PSYOP MOS and assigned to an SF unit is leading a raid on the capitol building??!! "Was she really acting on her own?"...seems like serious bad judgement for someone in her specific situation/training. "Was she running an op and got caught?"...maybe? Have we ever seen psyops doing political ops in other countries? Why not here in US?

https://apnews.com/article/emily-rainey-army-investigation-capitol-5e3cd1ed9fc23269ce3b74ae55664d90


Here is an article that she wrote 6-7 months ago.

Do’s and Don’ts for being a Republican or Democrat in the military

The below guidance is factual; however, the examples and stylized commentary belong to the writer and do not express the sentiments of the Department of

sofrep.com

I just can't stop thinking about this story. I think it is fascinating. I've posted this around the internet and no one has ever commented on it...I find that very interesting, but maybe I'm just biased (i know i am).

Option 1: The story in the MSM about this is true. An SF psoyp officer is so bothered by what she sees going on that she puts her career on the line and engages on a raid on the capital while congress is actively engaged in a very sensitive national issue. That is interesting that this is the type/sort/caliber of person engaged in this sort of activity. What does she know from intel? What has she seen? Do they throw the UCMJ at her? Does she walk? Interesting?

Option 2: She was running a "pied piper" sort of operation (reichstag fire event) and got caught? on accident? on purpose? what org/person was she involved with? domestic group/organization? foreign group? An SF psyop person doing this is very interesting to me. Where is she in a few years?

To tie it back to this thread, all the social media companies start purging people from their platforms.

Ive seen these various videos that show both (1) raiders fighting capital police and (2) other videos showing capital police opening gates and letting them in. Very interesting.

 

[browning2480]

I just can't stop thinking about this story. I think it is fascinating. I've posted this around the internet and no one has ever commented on it...I find that very interesting, but maybe I'm just biased (i know i am).

Option 1: The story in the MSM about this is true. An SF psoyp officer is so bothered by what she sees going on that she puts her career on the line and engages on a raid on the capital while congress is actively engaged in a very sensitive national issue. That is interesting that this is the type/sort/caliber of person engaged in this sort of activity. What does she know from intel? What has she seen? Do they throw the UCMJ at her? Does she walk? Interesting?

Option 2: She was running a "pied piper" sort of operation (reichstag fire event) and got caught? on accident? on purpose? what org/person was she involved with? domestic group/organization? foreign group? An SF psyop person doing this is very interesting to me. Where is she in a few years?

To tie it back to this thread, all the social media companies start purging people from their platforms.

Ive seen these various videos that show both (1) raiders fighting capital police and (2) other videos showing capital police opening gates and letting them in. Very interesting.

Just to answer this question, as a former Paralegal in the JAG Corps for the Air Force, there isn't much here for them to charge under the UCMJ. She had the right, as a civilian, to attend these type of events. There are rules in place that you have to follow and I haven't read anything where she broke those rules. Now if she gets charged with something on the civilian side, the Military can ask for jurisdiction and charge here under the UCMJ, but the civilian prosecutors would have to agree to give away the right to prosecute.

This is very interesting for sure.

 

[spike camp]

That's correct, but it is only half the story.

I’d confidently suggest it’s likely far more, than just half.

 

[5MilesBack]

The funny thing is.......when there are no opposing views on anything, life gets pretty darn boring. Would be like being a doctor in a world without sickness or ailments.

 

[Diesel]

I have been rereading this thread and the "Social Dilemma" thread in light of actions taken by twitter, facebook, apple and the like. It is telling that most posters recognize the negative influence that these entities are having on our well being. That is a positive indication because once you see the problem you can take action to correct it.

These social platforms are like giving all the loudmouths in all the bars permission to blab away nonstop to the annoyance of everyone else. Who wants to listen to that noise.

 

[Moneyball]

I deleted it in 2010 and never looked back. Social media is a waste of gas.


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[Shraggs]

I am not sure, maybe they did and if not they should have. I think this particular situation crossed the line and got everyone's attention. I hope going forward they will able to define and communicate more clearly what their policy is and a commitment to acting on that policy without discrimination and equally regardless of party, affiliation etc.

So long before the White House incident, those that organized using SM and literally burned business, killed business owners, shot cops, occupied cities, pissed and shit in streets - and those followers on SM who encouraged it, cheered it...

wasn’t enough, or enough for you?

 

[Rokbar]

How many police officers died during the kavanaugh hearings, and which elected official organized that group and sent them there. Do tell.

How many have died during the antifa and blm riots. As far as the DC capital, I have not heard how the officer died yet? Just curious. I know the one lady protester was shot inside the capital. But have not heard how the other four people died? Just curious.

 

[Spike elk]

How many have died during the antifa and blm riots. As far as the DC capital, I have not heard how the officer died yet? Just curious. I know the one lady protester was shot inside the capital. But have not heard how the other four people died? Just curious.

Likely follows the political science of Covid as "probable" deaths just for the political optic.

 

[CBreeze]

Just to answer this question, as a former Paralegal in the JAG Corps for the Air Force, there isn't much here for them to charge under the UCMJ. She had the right, as a civilian, to attend these type of events. There are rules in place that you have to follow and I haven't read anything where she broke those rules. Now if she gets charged with something on the civilian side, the Military can ask for jurisdiction and charge here under the UCMJ, but the civilian prosecutors would have to agree to give away the right to prosecute.

This is very interesting for sure.

My understanding is that she had resigned her commission as of October or thereabouts- but has yet to ETS so she would still be subject to UCMJ, in my experience. I had a solider who as part of a random 10% company piss test the week before he went on terminal leave had a positive for marijuana result come back while he was on terminal leave. He was article 15d at the company level. Lost half his remaining pay.

of course all of this UCMJ talk less fun than imagining all kinds of wild scenarios. If she was hotter, I might imagine a few wild scenarios too.

 

[browning2480]

My understanding is that she had resigned her commission as of October or thereabouts- but has yet to ETS so she would still be subject to UCMJ, in my experience. I had a solider who as part of a random 10% company piss test the week before he went on terminal leave had a positive for marijuana result come back while he was on terminal leave. He was article 15d at the company level. Lost half his remaining pay.

of course all of this UCMJ talk less fun than imagining all kinds of wild scenarios. If she was hotter, I might imagine a few wild scenarios too.

Yes you are absolutely right. She is still subject to the UCMJ until she is officially separated. Same rules apply for attending rally's and such.

 

[BjornF16]

UCMJ can reach to separated members as well, depending upon their actual "status".

I saw an O-5 brought back to active duty from retirement just so he could be given an Article 15.

A lot will hinge upon how the commanders "see" the Trump rally and Capitol Hill protest. If they declare the entire episode an "insurrection", they will proceed with UCMJ actions. That will be very telling in how senior military leadership view that day.

Most military members will "plea" down to Article 15 punishment to avoid Court Martial (reminds me of ambitious prosecutors who overcharge just to get a plea bargain down and easy conviction). Being convicted in a Court Martial would most likely result in the loss of all benefits, essentially a federal felony conviction, and loss of ability to own/possess guns. Few want to gamble with that prospect.

I sat on a General Court Martial as a young O-1...witnessed the O-6 bullying the enlisted members into a conviction. Left a sour taste and a distrust of the system. Best to avoid those situations...

 

[Newtosavage]

How many have died during the antifa and blm riots. As far as the DC capital, I have not heard how the officer died yet? Just curious. I know the one lady protester was shot inside the capital. But have not heard how the other four people died? Just curious.

If elected officials organized those riots that occurred following the peaceful protests, then I'd be calling for their resignation as well. But they didn't.

Quit defending the president's actions.

If you haven't heard how the officer died, you're being selectively clueless.

Goodbye Rokbar.

 

[BjornF16]

NTS

The fact of the matter is that several Senators/Representatives were encouraging the Antifa/BLM "peaceful protests". They should have been held culpable for that.

But they weren't.

LSM would be reporting on "peaceful protests" with buildings burning in the background. Again, these activities were encouraged by elected officials.

If you haven't heard how they encouraged these acts, then you are being selectively clueless.

Just sayin'...

Are these apples to apples? I would say not.

On the one hand, Antifa/BLM are pushing Marxist ideology. That is a direct attack upon our Constitution (something I've taken an oath to defend). Elected officials who support that are complicit in attacking the Constitution.

The Trump crowd are upset over alleged voter fraud (again, something that is a direct attack upon the Constitution). They want legitimate recounts, signature matching and investigations into the allegations. After all, as the Democrats are fond of saying, "serious allegations require an investigation".

I don't condone the forceful entry into the Capitol. But I will defend their rights to protest peacefully. (Wasn't it several Democrats that said flash bangs, tear gas only serve to turn protests into riots?) Trump never encouraged anyone to be violent...just voice their dissent/displeasure (which I thought Democrats were good with since they encouraged everyone to get in Republicans faces wherever they were, to include at dinner with their family).

 

[mmw194287]

\. As far as the DC capital, I have not heard how the officer died yet? Just curious.

He was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher.

 

[blackdawg]

Back to deleting Facebook and other tech companies. Let’s hear about alternative platforms, the tech giant’s have spoken and they have voted conservatives off the island.


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[browning2480]

UCMJ can reach to separated members as well, depending upon their actual "status".

I saw an 0-5 brought back to active duty from retirement just so he could be given an Article 15.

A lot will hinge upon how the commanders "see" the Trump rally and Capitol Hill protest. If they declare the entire episode an "insurrection", they will proceed with UCMJ actions. That will be very telling in how senior military leadership view that day.

Most military members will "plea" down to Article 15 punishment to avoid Court Martial (reminds me of ambitious prosecutors who overcharge just to get a plea bargain down and easy conviction). Being convicted in a Court Martial would most likely result in the loss of all benefits, essentially a federal felony conviction, and loss of ability to own/possess guns. Few want to gamble with that prospect.

I sat on a General Court Martial as a young 0-1...witnessed the 0-6 bullying the enlisted members into a conviction. Left a sour taste and a distrust of the system. Best to avoid those situations...

If a member is truly separated, they are not subject to the UCMJ. What typically happens is what is going on with this officer. You can retire, but have 30 days of leave still to use. So you retire/separate, but are still on Active duty for 30 days, until your leave is up. That is what likely happened with the O-5 you are talking about.

Military members don't get to choose. A Courts Martial will work very closely to what a civilian trial will. It is all up to the Prosecuting JAG on what they want to charge and move forward with. The accused doesn't get a choice.

They could come back and give her an Article 15, if they think she has done something wrong, but it will be like impeaching a President with 5 days left. It won't follow her unless they take her to a Discharge Board and she gets something other than an Honorable Discharge. For something like this, if she has no past history with breaking the rules, that won't happen.

Not arguing with you, I just enjoy this type of stuff