Who else is managing land for whitetails?

Honyock

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I know that I'm not the only one on here managing land specifically for wildlife (whitetail, turkey, quail). For those of you who are, what change or improvement has made the biggest difference on your place? Also, what do you wish you would have done earlier? I'm always looking for new ideas to try/steal. I don't compete with anyone hunting and hoping we can share some ideas.

Three years ago we decided to pull the cows on 240 acres and to manage the land solely for wildlife (deer, turkey, quail). I'm at a stage of life that It's not all about making more money and have been blessed with the resources to be able to do this. The 240 is about 1/2 native grass and 1/2 big mature oaks with two spring fed creeks and two wells. It has a very healthy turkey population (120+) and a lot of deer live on and/or move through this property.

My #1 recommendation is to put together a realistic plan before you start. When we started we pretty much used the shotgun approach and started winging it (controlled burn, food plot, minerals, feeder etc.). At first, we had a little going on in a lot of places and not a lot getting completed. What probably made the biggest difference was when we finally put together a written plan and started managing the property in 40 acre parcels instead of as a whole. Pro Tip #1: have a plan before you start. When we broke it down into smaller parcels we actually started seeing improvements. There's only so much you can do time wise, so we also list in order by priority what we want to do first, second, etc. We started with the 40 acres where we saw the most sign and focused on what we could do to maximize that specific parcel (control burns, food plots/feeders, hinge cutting, etc.). When we complete a parcel, we move to the next one on the list. We've now got about 120 acres completed.

My #2 recommendation is to run cellular trail cameras. I know that the mention of trail cameras will start a revolt but If you're not running cameras on your land, you have no idea what's on your place. No we are not running all over the place from one feeder to the other chasing deer on pictures. I'm too old to run and that's not my idea of hunting. We use cell cameras on feeders and food plots solely for inventory purposes. Cameras will provide you a lot of information in regard to the health of the herd (buck to doe ratio, age distribution of bucks, what bucks made it through the orange army and the winter). We went back through pictures at the end of the year and identified 31 different bucks (spikes on up) on camera. Some were frequent flyers and some were occasional late night guests. The only way that I knew there were that many bucks, their age and their headgear was trail cameras. It's a whole lot easier to pass up those young bucks and the "decent" bucks when you have pictures of bigger bucks. Pro Tip #2: If you want to kill big deer, you have to quit shooting young bucks and "decent" bucks. If you put one by your gate you also might get to catch the State Rep for House District 24 climbing over your gate and illegally hunting turkey.
 
Wish we had your acreage. Have 11 acres and plenty of deer in the night. Working on perimeter screening trees/bushes and food plantings to see if they’ll show during daylight more.
 
My wife’s family has farmed the same few thousand acres for over 150 years. Mix of hard woods, swamps, and farm fields. Never any feeders and never any bait piles. Controlled burns when needed and proper conditioning/rotation of nutrients in soil is key for yield. Leaving sporadic plots unharvested keeps animals content.

Corn, soy beans, alfalfa, and grass being rotated.

Despite the increase in wolves, the extreme cold snaps, the down years dry land farming, etc… The deer herds continue to thrive with proper farm management and native mixed terrain that allows for healthy herds.

My father in law now also farms in Wyoming. Similar but different strategies to keep the elk, mule deer, antelope, whitetails, and others sticking around year after year.
 
I took 8 acres out of row crop production and made a bedding area above a creek in Illinois. For Upper Michigan cutting is making the biggest difference
 
A friend and I collectively own and lease about 1500 acres in the southeast. Fortunately we have access to great equipment. Not just tractors and implements but bulldozer, track hoe, forestry mulcher, no till drill, corn planter.

Food, water, cover. I started killing a lot more big deer when I figured out the best tactic to kill a mature whitetail is to sit downwind of the thickest cover you can find. Problem is, turkey don’t like that kind of cover so it’s become a balancing act for us as our focus has really shifted to turkey habitat management

We also have installed a number of long narrow lanes - up to 400 yards long but only ~25 yards wide thru creek bottoms and pine rows where the topography allows it. Those make great food plots with stands on one or both ends

We plant a mix of stuff for the game. Decent amount of chufa, corn, beans. If it is not planted in that it’s probably planted in Durana clover

Our biggest neighbor is a 750 acre lease. Hunted by only 2 guys who are like minded. So that helps. We do have a lot of brown/down hunters around us which is a constant source of frustration

Personally every stand I’ve got is placed based on the wind and being able to get in quietly.

I’m slowly switching from old school cameras to cell cams.

On our 1500 we have probably close to 20 feeders which run most of the year except for March and April (turkey season and a few weeks leading up to it). Most of the feeders have 6-8 deer standing around waiting for them to go off twice/day

We trap nest raiders pretty aggressively in the winter

We also shoot a good many coyote - mostly targets of opportunity while deer hunting

We are selective with bucks we shoot. Our goal (and our neighbors with the 750) is for a buck to be at least 4.5.

While I love it all and all of the above makes it sound like we must have good deer coming out of the woodwork, our county gets an immense amount of pressure and the deer are incredibly spooky. We rarely see them while riding around. And if a deer catches a whiff of your scent they turn inside out running the other way

We had a couple sounders of pigs show up a few years back. We bought a couple pig brigs and trapped them before they could get too bad.

Last year I killed 3 mature bucks that were at least 4.5 including one that was wounded (otherwise I would have passed on him) and another that was the biggest buck I’ve personally ever killed. There was a fourth mature buck killed by a guest of a friend and a couple of smaller bucks (one was an old deer with a brain abscess that was acting strange and the other was a kids first deer) and probably 10-12 does. We were light on the doe harvest because there were a couple of really nice bucks we pretty much committed the season to killing. I killed one but the other has gone missing. Neighbors on the 750 killed two mature bucks and some does

Turkey season was tough though. Only one gobbler killed on our 1500. But typically we can count on 2-4 gobblers/season

Watching cameras now in anticipation of season opening in early October. And we’ve got a few deer to hunt. They’ve mostly shed their velvet this week
 
We own 32 acres of woods surrounded by ag land. No feeders or bait piles but do have a few rotating food plots of clover and winter forage. Doing soil samples and regular mowings has made chemical weed control not needed. I only run the clover for 2-3 years anyway to freshen the soil for the winter forage.
I also have found I need to shoot more does. It means seeing deer out back the rest of the year, but see more bucks year round this way.
 
The guy who rents the family farm from my dad has been mismanaging the property for whitetails (and other game). He doesn’t have enough cattle on it and he can’t seem to get the hang of rotational grazing. But he pays promptly and he keeps the fencing in repair, so it’s hard to ask much more of a renter.

The upper pastures have become heavily overgrown with patches of blackberries, multi-floral roses, white thorns, hawthorns, crab apples, and small thickets of locusts. While deplorable as a farmer, this has turned those pastures into whitetail and wild turkey heaven. I’ve also seen ruffed grouse - which used to be only found on the top of the mountain and have been practically nonexistent for the past 25 years - down in the new “habitat.” And we have heard quail for the first time in forty years.

It doesn’t take management to make habitat for whitetails, just mismanagement. They can thrive in any bit of marginal territory. The deer who thrive in eastern Virginia in the 100-yard wide woods between two subdivisions and eat the hydrangeas and sunflowers in my yard do just as well in western Virginia’s under grazed cattle pastures where cover is interspersed with patches of clover.

I also won’t kill any does. The land isn’t anywhere near carrying capacity and my little “harems” of unmolested does attract bucks from my neighbors’ land year after year. Once the rut starts, I just have to visit the does’ bedding locations (which never change) to find the nice bucks.

PS - I hate the cameras. They take the mystery out of the experience. I love it when I hunt my place for 21 days straight, then finally catch a fleeting glimpse of a monster who has been hiding out basically under my nose the entire time. It’s like the difference in dating a stripper and dating a “better class of woman.” With no offense meant to those of you who are dating or married to strippers.

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