When did leupold go down hill?

[omicron1792]

Man I wish leupolds were good. I love everything about them except for the working part.

 

[Woolley Bugger]

Some sort of ammo harlot.

Reminds me of this meme. From the bad old days of 2013-14.
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This morning I lucked out and was able to buy two boxes of ammo. I placed the boxes on the front seat and headed back home, but stopped at a gas station where a drop-dead gorgeous blonde in a short skirt was filling up her car at the next pump.


She glanced at the two boxes of ammo, bent over and leaned in my passenger window, and said in a sexy voice, “I’m a big believer in barter, old fella. Would you trade SEX for ammo?”


I thought for a few seconds and asked, “What kind of ammo ya got?”

 

[Ross]

Not all leupolds are POS like some make them out to be……the dialing version can’t speak to, but I could clog this with no issues success photos for longer than most are aged. My newer version vx3 has shined so far, so no plans to change.

 

[eric1115]

Man, you really hit it on the head here. Ammo is definitely a scarcity mentality with most people. Most of the shooting I do is open public land, but in a spot that other people occasionally show up to. With some of the looks I've gotten when cycling through recoil-control and speed-precision drills with handguns and ARs, you'd think I was some sort of profligate squanderer of a nearly irreplaceable natural resource. Bill Drills and double/triples by the magazine are the worst for this. It seems incomprehensible to them that every single one of those rounds is an accounted-for, aimed shot. Or that 300 rounds of 9mm can be a warm-up in some training evolutions. But it's the moral tone that's so odd - like I'm being unvirtuous. Some sort of ammo harlot.

If you need signatures on a petition to get changed from WKR to Ammo Harlot just let me know and I'll sign.

 

[muledeerchaser]

I still have about 20 Leupold scopes. Some going back 25 years ago. I noticed the quality of the scopes going down about 10 years ago. I have never found the CDs system to track adequately. It seems to take a shot or 2 to go to the designated zero, if at all. So the only Leupold I trust anymore is the non CDs Vx 3 hd Boone and Crocket Reticle 4.5-14 x scope… I am replacing all the other Leupolds with Trigicon Credos or Nightforce SHV scopes……..

 

[bigunit]

Man I wish leupolds were good. I love everything about them except for the working part.

Ya i did a lot of research and looking around and ended up with a vx3hd 4.5-14. I loved the look, the weight and thought the cds dial would be perfect for me as a flatlander. Put it on a tikka 308. The cds dial got me to 600 yards and got hits on steel. I even did my own drop tests at the range one day and everything at 100 yards was hunky dory. I kept it on that 308 for a few years and many trips to the range. Every trip to the range I had to "tweak" the zero. Maybe 1moa left maybe 1moa right, maybe down. I always just thought it was me and maybe my own inconsistencies or maybe it was windier than I thought last time.

Nope. I put a trijicon credo on that 308 and haven't removed the turret caps since I put it on. Lesson learned I guess.

 

[Axlrod]

Ya i did a lot of research and looking around and ended up with a vx3hd 4.5-14. I loved the look, the weight and thought the cds dial would be perfect for me as a flatlander. Put it on a tikka 308. The cds dial got me to 600 yards and got hits on steel. I even did my own drop tests at the range one day and everything at 100 yards was hunky dory. I kept it on that 308 for a few years and many trips to the range. Every trip to the range I had to "tweak" the zero. Maybe 1moa left maybe 1moa right, maybe down. I always just thought it was me and maybe my own inconsistencies or maybe it was windier than I thought last time.

Nope. I put a trijicon credo on that 308 and haven't removed the turret caps since I put it on. Lesson learned I guess.

Your post is what is repeated many many times in real life- except most don't think there is anything wrong with it. I help out at our range as an RO. In the weeks leading up to hunting season, I see the same thing over and over. A lot of the shooters take their scope caps off before fireing a single round. They are conditioned to having to "sight in" every year.

 

[tracknrackz]

Have had many vx3’s, vx5’s and some of the new mark4hd and 5hds. My question is when did Leupold go downhill and which scopes are good to go? I’ve seen pretty much every Leupold fail form’s test. I know the original mark 4 is solid but what other Leupold scopes from the past are good to go?

I don't have a lot of experience with the older versions but my vx3i 2.5-8 x36 has been rock solid on two different guns.

 

[wyosteve]

Seems to be more of the CDS/dialing folks that are having trouble with the new ones. I have a newer 3-15 and some 1-6's that have not given me an issue. But I don't dial.

 

[omicron1792]

Seems to be more of the CDS/dialing folks that are having trouble with the new ones. I have a newer 3-15 and some 1-6's that have not given me an issue. But I don't dial.

There is no doubt you can get an individual scope that does fine.

But,

You can’t overlook the hundreds that have had problems. It’s clearly a gamble if you decide to buy one.

 

[Macintosh]

My brother has a vx3 2.5-8 with capped turrets that he says has been solid, and he does get out dragging it thru brush and up and down mountains. He does shoot proficiently and check his zero so I trust him that it hasnt shifted.

I purchased the exact same scope for my wifes kimber, in I think 2006 or 2007. Afaik that was before cds dials were a thing. Chased a zero around every range trip, and it never once adjusted predictably. She killed a few animals with it but never past 200 yards, never shot it past 200 yards. It didnt group well so we never felt comfortable using at at longer range, and where we mostly hunt that wasnt really a limitation. Leupold fixed it under warranty same as several others. “Reworked erector system” is preprinted on every leupold warranty form I think. Put a trijicon on it in 2023 and the groups tightened up and havent had to touch a turret since.

Moral of the story #1: ime its been an issue for 20+ years. It just took rokslide to show me that not all scopes do that.

Moral of the story #2: some work, others dont.