What to do on multi-day white-tail hunts

When I travel hunt it is about finding the animals, and then hunting. First morning would find me watching what i think is a good area til 10:30 and then covering ground to find deer til about 3:30 and then setting up shop in another good looking area. Scouting might be as easy as walking backwoods roads/2 tracks looking for a big track or two in order to know where to focus your energy.

You've already spent hours looking at aerials and topo maps - you should be at least near the zone. If not, find it quickly and then hunt it.
 
I would still hunt all day. The idea of sitting in one spot all day makes me start getting bored already. The only time I stay in one spot is when I can count on other hunters pushing deer past me.
Still hunting would be the last thing I would do down here.
I would find fresh buck sign and hunt it.
 
I guess my question is more how would you find the sign to sit on--regardless of what you do with fresh buck sign, you still have to find it first. You can do that while hunting, or not. Your choice. Sounds like very high deer density if sitting is more productive. For sure if deer density is high you can sit on sign and see deer. If its an area you are unfamiliar with or your scouting is from summer as the OP mentioned, you can hunt as you are scouting (ie still hunting), and then decide if sitting or moving is more productive based on the sign. Concentrated area freshly torn up--sure sit on it. Sparse sign, relatively evenly distributed along transitions in bigger woods, ime still hunting is every bit as productive and usually more so. Obviously going in with a preconcieved notion of how to hunt it, rather than letting the sign tell you how to hunt, isnt the best way. But for the OP who said they have a hard time thinking they to want to sit for 9 days straight, I'm not sure why someone would shy away from moving around even if they plan to do a lot of sitting. How else are you going to find the fresh sign to sit on (or still hunt)?
 
If you’re in the spot…I would sit. If you’re looking for the spot…I would scout. If there is no spot I would still hunt
IMO this is the way. The only thing I would add is that often all three happen in the same short time period, and get mixed as needed. ie head out "scouting" hiking without moving super slow...then slow down (hunting) based on sign, terrain, vegetation, etc...find really good fresh sign and REALLY begin to slow down (still hunt)...then get into a area that's really freshly torn up, so you sit on it for a bit...etc. Sometimes a "spot" isnt a spot, its a linear area such as a wet run or vegetation transition that could be miles long--often has a concentration of sign along it in big woods, but odds of bumping into a deer are better if you cover more of it, ie still hunting can be really productive here.
Regardless, totally normal and good practice IMO to mix and match all three (scouting, still hunting, sitting), all day, depending on what you find.
 
I guess my question is more how would you find the sign to sit on--regardless of what you do with fresh buck sign, you still have to find it first. You can do that while hunting, or not. Your choice. Sounds like very high deer density if sitting is more productive. For sure if deer density is high you can sit on sign and see deer. If its an area you are unfamiliar with or your scouting is from summer as the OP mentioned, you can hunt as you are scouting (ie still hunting), and then decide if sitting or moving is more productive based on the sign. Concentrated area freshly torn up--sure sit on it. Sparse sign, relatively evenly distributed along transitions in bigger woods, ime still hunting is every bit as productive and usually more so. Obviously going in with a preconcieved notion of how to hunt it, rather than letting the sign tell you how to hunt, isnt the best way. But for the OP who said they have a hard time thinking they to want to sit for 9 days straight, I'm not sure why someone would shy away from moving around even if they plan to do a lot of sitting. How else are you going to find the fresh sign to sit on (or still hunt)?
It’s pretty easy to understand, if you think about it at all. If you actually know what you’re looking for when scouting, which seems to be a very foreign concept out west, it’s easy to find a place to sit. Moving around down here typically spooks more deer, especially mature bucks, than you’ll get shots at. Also if you move around very much down here on public land, you wind up ruining other people’s hunts, as well.
However, I guess if you don’t know what to look for like your post suggests you don’t, then walking around maybe your jam.
 
I bumped a nice buck out of a stand of timber with 2 young bucks this past season while elk hunting. My buddy killed him within 10 yards of where I saw him about 2 hours later.

I think guys wildly overestimate how skittish deer are, especially late in the season.
You wildly underestimate how skittish Deep South deer are.
 
last year i bumped a buck getting into my stand in Arkansas. 15 minutes later i killed him. i doubt this is a common thing.

i have killed a bunch of deer at lunch time when other hunters are going and coming in the woods. stay out all day.
 
Ive hunted in a bunch of states (but not Alabama), as well as different areas within many of them. What Ive found most consistently is that hunters in every area think their deer are unique. What Ive seen says otherwise. Of course there’s variation, every area has its own differences and difficulties, in addition to differences between individual deer. But for the most part they’ve all acted really similarly. Of course Alabama is different than Maine or New York or Ohio or Virginia or Florida. And hunters in every area have their own culture and expectations and ways they hunt, and for the most part ALL of them think their deer are the hardest to hunt, and their way is the best and only way to hunt them. Frankly Im skeptical that the deer act very differently from one place to another because I simply havent seen it. In general Ive always seen that the deer are pretty similar and react relatively predictably to different terrain, habitat, seasonality and pressure. If anything what Ive seen is that the deer are the constant, and its up to us hunters to read how they are using different habitat and best adjust to that. The “whitetail industrial complex” (ie the monotonous and ubiquitous midwest treestand-hunting, deer-farming industry that overwhelmingly dominates WT deer hunting media and drives sales for said industry) has people believing that deer are these mystical creatures that are unapproachable unless you do X, Y and Z precisely as directed. Most of that seems like first class horse hooey to me based on what I SEE, because what I see is that people can be successful hunters in a wide variety of ways, almost anywhere. Some hunting techniques may up your odds (ie “be more appropriate”) in a 500,000 acre Wilderness area that has 1-2 deer per square mile, zero ag, zero logging, very little concentrated food sources, unlimited bedding and essentially zero pressure for literally days of walking. Other techniques may work better in areas with higher density of deer, concentrated food sources like ag, clearcuts, hard or soft mast, concentrated bedding or travel routes, etc. AND, lots of areas are somewhere in between or have elements of both, and imo it makes perfect sense to be flexible and adapt your approach to the specific situation. But they all work, and the most successful hunters I know are the ones who can read a situation and adapt their approach in the moment.
I am not the worlds best hunter, but in doing this for a long time the one biggest thing Ive learned is that if the only tool you have is a hammer, then every problem looks like a nail, and that results in some less than elegant carpentry.
 
I don’t know anyone in the southeast that “still hunts”, “slip hunts” or “bumbles around through the woods like Elmer Fudd (as we in the south east call it)” who consistently kills mature whitetails. They flat out just don’t tolerate that kind of pressure.

With the absence of a defined rut window I think hunting mornings and midday is a waste of time. I’d spend that time finding the food source deer are hitting at that time, then hunt good winds in the evenings on those food sources. Scouting and hunting for whitetails is a fine line. You can’t kill them if you don’t know what is there, but you can very easily over pressure deer. To that point, I’d spend as much time as you can hunting the same food sources in different areas in the window you have to hunt. Every time you step in the woods in a particular area, your chances of killing a specific mature deer in that exact spot goes down, exponentially.


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Apart from being armed (and therefore having the possibility of shooting a deer you see while creeping thru the woods, something tens of thousands—if not hundreds of thousands—of eastern hunters do on public land every fall), whats the difference between still hunting and “finding the food source the deer are using at that time”, that has folks knickers in a twist? Honestly I think the difference is 90% semantics. Anyone that can scout to find a spot to sit and kill a deer, can do the exact same thing while toting a rifle, kill the exact same deer while sitting, AND maybe kill a deer midday while “scouting”. I just dont see the difference.

Last I checked, the question was about a 1-week-ish hunt encompassing an entire national forest without any in-season scouting, by a guy who WANTS to be in the woods mid-day. How exactly do you propose a rifle hunter showing up blind for a week finds not just sign, but good sign, to set up on for a sit—unless they are in the woods looking around? Some folks are talking about this as if they were confined to a 50-acre private woodlot, not a 100,000+ acre national forest.

Also, who said anything about “specific mature deer”? Maybe thats what OP is after, but I did not get that impression.
 
I don’t know anyone in the southeast that “still hunts”, “slip hunts” or “bumbles around through the woods like Elmer Fudd (as we in the south east call it)” who consistently kills mature whitetails. They flat out just don’t tolerate that kind of pressure.

With the absence of a defined rut window I think hunting mornings and midday is a waste of time. I’d spend that time finding the food source deer are hitting at that time, then hunt good winds in the evenings on those food sources. Scouting and hunting for whitetails is a fine line. You can’t kill them if you don’t know what is there, but you can very easily over pressure deer. To that point, I’d spend as much time as you can hunting the same food sources in different areas in the window you have to hunt. Every time you step in the woods in a particular area, your chances of killing a specific mature deer in that exact spot goes down, exponentially.


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My experiences 40 years of hunting SE whitetails would mirror this. You move ,you lose. Pressure is a real thing. I had an open mind in my early years about different hunting methods and employed many. I found killed more game sitting still.

In Alabama we hunt over food be it acorns , green plots or corn.
I hunt bucks in the rut by staying close to does. Majority of hunting is Club or lease property due to lack of vast areas of public lands. Effective or not your not going to be a very popular guy if your walking around on top of the other guys in their climbers.

There are exceptions but by far SE whitetail hunting is a develop a spot and sit on it sport. Some methods are not just traditions or habits passed down but come from decades of finding what works.
 
The OP stated that by using topos and other scouting methods other than being in the woods should get him in the deer. He only has to get to the most likely areas and fine tune his previous findings. There is no substitute for scouting on the ground.

All the SE hunters are saying is you’re likely to blow out deer walking around much here in the South. Other areas not so much.

I wouldn’t have the slightest idea how to hunt if I travelled to the western states. The OP doesn’t have any choice but to scout likely areas when he gets there.
 
…There is no substitute for scouting on the ground...

…The OP doesn’t have any choice but to scout likely areas when he gets there.
This is precisely my point.

Some methods are not just traditions or habits passed down but come from decades of finding what works.
100% agree.
Also, if you’re not intentional about it, those same “habits” often serve just as much as “blinders” as anything else. Theres a zillion examples of this in hunting habits and culture. “Stuck in a rut” is a common phrase for a reason. In this case, if you have to scout…and you want to be in the woods midday…and you have an entire national forest…whats the actual difference?

On crowding. If there are “guys in climbers you are constantly on top of” even across bigger areas of national forest, then yeah, super-crowded conditions like that would dictate to a large degree how I approached things. I havent run into that on larger areas of national forest anywhere Ive ever hunted in the east, but if thats the case it wouldnt be much fun moving around anyway—regardless of whether thats strictly scouting or hunting. Which is sort of an unfortunate catch-22 if there is “no substitute for scouting on the ground…”. Luckily, OP characterized the WMA’s as “more crowded”, so it sounds like on national forest it’s NOT like that?
 
My experiences 40 years of hunting SE whitetails would mirror this. You move ,you lose. Pressure is a real thing. I had an open mind in my early years about different hunting methods and employed many. I found killed more game sitting still.

In Alabama we hunt over food be it acorns , green plots or corn.
I hunt bucks in the rut by staying close to does. Majority of hunting is Club or lease property due to lack of vast areas of public lands. Effective or not your not going to be a very popular guy if your walking around on top of the other guys in their climbers.

There are exceptions but by far SE whitetail hunting is a develop a spot and sit on it sport. Some methods are not just traditions or habits passed down but come from decades of finding what works.
The same skills work on mule deer and elk and antelope too. Go figure.

Some folks can't sit still and that's fine. But if I know where the critters are coming to, I'll be sitting there and waiting for them as opposed to wandering around and scenting up and area - especially for WT deer.

This isn't hunting your private farm that you walk every day. An old buck on public will change his routine if he smells something he doesn't like. Where I hunt in FL, we get 2 chances - you scout and hang a camera. The next time you go in, that buck is out of there. I check the camera when I go in to hunt, if nothing, then head to spot #2 or #3. Learned this lesson the hard way - had 2 cams 1/2 mile apart. Setup had big buck on there daily, went in to check cams and the next photo was the buck entering the big swamp 1/2 mile away on the other cam. Never saw him again. Cell cam would keep folks from scenting the place up.

This is why the idea of scouting with your stand on your back is such a good technique for WT. Find good sign, scooch up a tree. When the buck comes thru you are hopefully looking at him.
 
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