What do you think about the weird behaviour of my custom rifle?

[ssimo]

IMO your gun doesn’t shoot as good as you want to think it does. No fliers no nothing. It’s probably a 1.5” gun that shoots the occasional small group and you want to think that it’s “normal”. If the barrel is floated and the action is bedded, that’s just how your gun shoots.

You are definitely wrong. It doesn’t shoot occasional tight groups.. there is a big difference between one position and another and, at the range and in a certain position, it never threw a shot outside a 0.7 MOA area, not once. When I change position the groups open up a bit but, most importantly, poi shifts

 

[ssimo]

Agreed.

How can a 1.5 MOA gun shoot regularly one rugged hole groups as in the pic? Does this look like a 1.5 MOA gun (110 yards)

 

[MagnumHntr]

You are definitely wrong. It doesn’t shoot occasional tight groups.. there is a big difference between one position and another and, at the range and in a certain position, it never threw a shot outside a 0.7 MOA area, not once. When I change position the groups open up a bit but, most importantly, poi shifts

Then you answered it, You suck at shooting

 

[ssimo]

@ssimo : Bingo. Found it.

I hope so, i have to go
Back to the range

 

[ssimo]

I would have someone else shoot it. My gut tells me that it’s operator error.

However, if you’ve had consistency with other rifles and this thing really does actually shoot 9 very precise bullets with 1 way out of precision, then perhaps something is wrong with it.

An 11lb .308 isn’t a particularly hard recoiling rifle. But you also said you lose sight picture which has me thinking it’s you.

If other shooters have the same problem, then I’d go through the easy checklist of things: free float, bedding, re-torquing and nail polishing screws, etc. If you still have the same issue, send it back to the builder.

I will say that anecdotally, it seems folks have way more problems with “custom” guns than off the shelf quality rifles.

I am pretty sure that anyone shooting it would have the same problem in this configuration (i also found out the scope is mounted 0.2 inches higher than my bergara (due to the integral rail being higher).

So most likely this is the issue.. I can’t think of any other reason why in some conditions the rifle shoots very well and in other poi shifts dramatically. Maybe the buttstock is not held enough to prevent vertical movement so the barrel ends up higher after recoil (most of the issues are in elevation, not windage).. i can feel like i am holding my old RIfles but I am leaning behind this one, like if the connection between the rifle and the shooter is weaker in some way

 

[ssimo]

You couldn't bind the bolt on my Tikkas and M70 no matter how hard you try. $6k custom r700 actions seem to bind pretty easily. Feeding issues accuracy issues with custom barrels. I just dont understand why people go that route.

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I went that route because i wanted a rifle configured exactly like in my dreams.. maybe it was a mistake

I have never seen a gun so accurate tough, when every shot lands in the hole of the previous one it is very satisfing, when shots are thrown 4 inches higher than expected at 350 yards it is just a bit disappointing

Damn..

 

[grfox92]

I went that route because i wanted a rifle configured exactly like in my dreams.. maybe it was a mistake

I have never seen a gun so accurate tough, when every shot lands in the hole of the previous one it is very satisfing, when shots are thrown 4 inches higher than expected at 350 yards it is just a bit disappointing

Damn..

Would you mind posting a picture of one of this rifles 10 shot groups?

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[atmat]

Is this similar to your other threads where you ask questions, then don’t actually listen to anyone, and then start giving the answers?

Well, I guess @Formidilosus was right based on your next responses to people helping:

You are definitely wrong.

I am pretty sure that anyone shooting it would have the same problem in this configuration

 

[BadDogPSD]

What does your gunsmith say about your issues?
If the rifle shoots laser beams in a controlled environment that your seem to be very comfortable with, but much less accurate in other shooting positions/situations, the rifle is very likely not the problem.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

You are definitely wrong. It doesn’t shoot occasional tight groups.. there is a big difference between one position and another and, at the range and in a certain position, it never threw a shot outside a 0.7 MOA area, not once. When I change position the groups open up a bit but, most importantly, poi shifts

Then you are the issue. It’s pretty simple.

 

[huntnful]

How can a 1.5 MOA gun shoot regularly one rugged hole groups as in the pic? Does this look like a 1.5 MOA gun (110 yards)

Literally those two groups overlayed are probably 1 MOA. Shoot another couple and it’s 1.5.

You AND your rifle are consistently inconsistent. Welcome to reality

 

[West2East]

I'd be tickled pink with that gun!

 

[thinhorn_AK]

So your gun shoots great off a bench and bags, then when you go shoot from positions you haven’t practiced much it isn’t as accurate???

Seems like it’s you.

Edit to add: that isn’t meant as an insult, I’d guess that applies to almost everybody. I’d think 100% of people will be less accurate from improvised positions that haven't practiced. Shooting off the bench is good for sighting a gun in, past that, it dosent really translate to real world shooting.

 

[grfox92]

How can a 1.5 MOA gun shoot regularly one rugged hole groups as in the pic? Does this look like a 1.5 MOA gun (110 yards)

How many rounds are those groups?

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[43.6N]

Pick your best position.
Put 30 rounds into the same target.

Pick your worst position.
Put another 30 rounds into the same target.

Post pictures.
Be open to the coaching that will follow

 

[wind gypsy]

good point on the parallax, i always tune it before a shot.

How do you verify parallax error is tuned out?

So your rifles changes POI by 1 or 2 MOA if you change the pressure you apply to the shoulder or if you lean the buttpad on a lower back rest?

2 MOA seems like a stretch but 1 MOA seems reasonable if there are significantly different pressures and input into the rifle.

 

[Gstew1930]

I might be getting a little toxic as ive gotten older. These threads make me happy ."please give me advice so I can tell you how you're wrong". Please keep going

 

[leclairk]

My guess is it’s the way you align yourself with the stock. In a controlled environment you are able get a consistent position behind the rifle. Change the position and you aren’t properly aligned. For whatever reason, you and the stock don’t work together. There is nothing wrong with the gun.

 

[grfox92]

I might be getting a little toxic as ive gotten older. These threads make me happy ."please give me advice so I can tell you how you're wrong". Please keep going

This is a common theme on forums. We need another name for people who do this. I vote to call them Randy's.

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