Western Precision

[Jmort1754]

Hey guys what paint do you use make the front globe crosshairs glow a bit?

 

[CMF]

I wanted to like the crosshairs, but after shooting both crosshairs and the fiber optic, the fiber is the way to go. It would be nice if they could add a second fiber similar to an archery sight for a second yardage. That is why I wanted the crosshair.

 

[antaresproper]

Fiber optic is the way to go, no paint is going to actually glow without "charging" under light.

 

[ElDiablito]

I wanted to like the crosshairs, but after shooting both crosshairs and the fiber optic, the fiber is the way to go. It would be nice if they could add a second fiber similar to an archery sight for a second yardage. That is why I wanted the crosshair.
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+1. This fiber optic is perfect to reasonable ranges.

 

[ElkArcher918]

I tried the fiberoptic front sight but it covered the sight picture/target too much beyond 50 yds.. Not good enough for me when I'm capable of shooting accurately out to 100-125 yds.. I went back to the ballistic reticle insert. On the latter, I like to see Williams improve the ballistic reticle insert whereby the hash marks lighten under low light condition, darken under bright conditions. Years ago some Nikon lower magnification scopes incorporated this feature.

 

[ElDiablito]

+1. This fiber optic is perfect to reasonable ranges.

When I say reasonable - for my eyes and rifle, that’s about 200 yards. I also use an adjustable iris peep (Merit or Gehmann).

Edit: Williams just came out with a finer .019” fiber optic insert. Just ordered mine to try. The standard one is .029”.

 

[CMF]

I tried the fiberoptic front sight but it covered the sight picture/target too much beyond 50 yds.. Not good enough for me when I'm capable of shooting accurately out to 100-125 yds.. I went back to the ballistic reticle insert. On the latter, I like to see Williams improve the ballistic reticle insert whereby the hash marks lighten under low light condition, darken under bright conditions. Years ago some Nikon lower magnification scopes incorporated this feature.

Me and the wife found it harder to focus the reticle and target and got better groups with the fiber. I agree, it does cover more of the target than I like.
I considered trying to drill or having someone capable of drilling out a small enough hole in the cross hair to insert an .019 fiber from an archery site. But I'm not that motivated to do since we were getting decent groups out to 150 and the wife and kids have no complaints and they're the ones hunting with it.

I think you'll reduce accuracy with the reticles at low light(or have no shot) while giving up sufficient groups with the fiber.

 

[CMF]

Edit: Williams just came out with a finer .019” fiber optic insert. Just ordered mine to try. The standard one is .029”.

Ha! saw this after I made my other reply. I will be trying that out that next time we have a muzzy hunt!

 

[Jmort1754]

When I say reasonable - for my eyes and rifle, that’s about 200 yards. I also use an adjustable iris peep (Merit or Gehmann).

Edit: Williams just came out with a finer .019” fiber optic insert. Just ordered mine to try. The standard one is .029”.

Where did you find the fiber optic insert ?

 

[ElDiablito]

Where did you find the fiber optic insert ?

Williams’ site

Ecommerce

shop.williamsgunsight.com

 

[CMF]

Williams’ site

Ecommerce

shop.williamsgunsight.com

I'd like to know once you recieve the sight, if the housing is actually smaller or just the fiber?

Looking at the link it looks like the housing may be the same.

I recently had an experience ordering a .010 pin to try out on my archery sight to find the housing the same size as the .019 sight and providing no real advantage since it still covered the target the same, but gathered less light.

 

[ElDiablito]

I'd like to know once you recieve the sight, if the housing is actually smaller or just the fiber?

Looking at the link it looks like the housing may be the same.

I recently had an experience ordering a .010 pin to try out on my archery sight to find the housing the same size as the .019 sight and providing no real advantage since it still covered the target the same, but gathered less light.

The housing is plastic so I think a guy could easily modify it a little if he wanted to. I’ll let you know.

 

[Jmort1754]

Orders a .29 green and .19 red.

Have issues with red sometimes. If that's the case I'll just switch it out to a different color

 

[ElDiablito]

The .019 looks great. Here is a pic of the .019 and the .029

 

[CMF]

The .019 looks great. Here is a pic of the .019 and the .029

nice, what is it made out of?

 

[ElDiablito]

nice, what is it made out of?

Polymer - like the original

 

[Jmort1754]

I got both a .29 green and a 0.19 red. I can't see the red, now to find some 0.19 green or yellow fiber

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Good find on the smaller optic insert, I’ll be ordering one now.

I actually did try to rattle can one of the metal crosshairs orange and it was a failure. The crosshairs are too thin for the paint to stick too evenly. I gave up pretty quick. Wiped it clean while still wet.

 

[TX_Diver]

What size is the standard insert? .29? Is there a .10 option or is .19 the smallest currently?

 

[ElDiablito]

What size is the standard insert? .29? Is there a .10 option or is .19 the smallest currently?

.019 or .029 (standard) are the only options.