WTS Well...I got scammed

[North Woods]

Did you get his FFL info? Did you send a USPS money order?

Talked to the FFL he said he was working with. The FFL said they had never heard of him, but had a guy call last week with the same story....sent someone a check but never received the gun. I sent a certified check from my bank.

 

[live2huntelk]

My FFL always requires a copy of the sending FFL number/info to validate before any money is sent.

 

[505Wapiti]

Wow, this really sucks. I’m sorry you fell victim to a complete shitbag. Hopefully you will recover your money, there are a lot of good posts here with good insight, and like the others have said please stay strong and don’t give up. These kind of people need to be behind bars. It sucks for everyone, especially you, but it trickles down to the newbies and junior members like myself who just want to do honest business with other honest people like ourselves. This dirtbag needs a lengthy session of some wall to wall counseling.

 

[North Woods]

I probably missed it, but is there a sticky in the forums anywhere that discusses a checklist or guidelines for buying guns/equipment this way?

 

[338edge]

Here's another potential scammer that came from long range only

 

[Bghntr416]

Years ago I read that payment using usps money orders was the way to go. If it was a scam then it WOULD BE investigated as mail fraud. Not sure if this is still the case.

 

[gjs4]

The only thing PayPal will do with firearms related sales is close your PayPal account once they find out about it.

Seriously or just assumed?


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[TX_Diver]

Seriously or just assumed?


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Serious.

Many reports on here and other gun related sites. That's why people are so adamant about not putting anything firearms related in the comments.

 

[KChunter71]

Seriously or just assumed?


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True. My gun smith had his business PayPal closed as it gave his clients another way to pay. Guns parts were the reason

 

[jt4]

I assume this is the same person.

In my dealings with him, here is the info he provided me:
Raymond Brown
207-578-3548
65 South Brewer Drive, Brewer, ME 04412

OP This sucks overall. hate to hear it.

In the future, have you considered using something like onx or town record to help you. Obviously it won't always work but it's but when sending a decent amount of money it's one extra verification step to see who's name is on file for the address you're sending a check to.

Not that it's going to help you now, but the name and address you listed on here don't add up.

 

[tntrker]

Being sent Certified/Registered mail, where signature is required, would also help stop the mail from being "grabbed" out of a mailbox.. HATE a thief!!

 

[rodney747]

Dam sorry people. Wish punishment was much more severe when they do catch them!

 

[rodney482]

The bank should be able to tell where it was cashed.
The place it was cashed will have video
The person who cashed it probably has an account there

 

[North Woods]

UPDATE:
I talked to the Brewer Police Officer this morning.

Kenneth Dorr Sr. is the old man living at 65 South Brewer Drive with his wife.

Kenneth Dorr Sr. has a son, named Kenneth Dorr Jr.

Kenneth Dorr Jr. is a convicted felon.

When the Brewer Police Officer initially went to the 65 South Brewer Drive address, on 10 March, both Kenneth Dorr Sr. and Kenneth Dorr Jr. were at the house. Both men denied knowledge of the situation involving the scam.

On the morning of 11 March, Kenneth Dorr Sr. contacted the Brewer Police Officer and informed the officer that a check in the amount of $1230 from USAA had been deposited into his account last week on 4 March. This is the check that I sent "Kenneth Dorr". Kenneth Dorr Sr. actually went to the bank on 11 March and got a copy of the check that was deposited and provided it to the Brewer Police Officer. He also informed the officer that he would withdraw the money and send it back to me. For now, the officer asked him to wait until he verified all of my information with the police report that I filed in my town.

I talked to the Brewer Police Officer this morning, 11 March, and he provided all of this information to me. At this point, I am waiting for the Brewer PD to talk to my local PD, square everything away, and move forward. It looks like I will get my money back (no guarantee, but a good chance) and that the Police Department is going to try to put together enough evidence to find the actual perpetrator. Part of this evidence will be trying to pinpoint the scammer using IP addresses.

I think it's the son...you'd have to provide strong evidence for me to believe otherwise at this point. Thanks for all of the encouragement and support through this. I will continue to provide updates until this is settled. I would also be more than willing to speak with anyone directly who may have been scammed by this guy. Two other users on here have already reached out to me that were scammed by this guy.

 

[Jbxl20]

Wow that’s awesome. Glad to hear it was resolved

 

[nettereo16]

The bank should be able to tell where it was cashed.
The place it was cashed will have video
The person who cashed it probably has an account there

Mobile deposit would provide some anonymity? They would just need the log in info

 

[Runningwater]

Love a happy ending - don't hear it much in these situations - kudo's to the police!

 

[stevevan]

Love a happy ending - don't hear it much in these situations - kudo's to the police!

I hope the bastard gets nailed!!! I just read this post and my situation is fitting together. Same Ken Dorr answered a WTB add I posted and tried to sell me a pair of Swarovski 8x32 EL Binos. After some pics and communication via messages I got some bad vibes about the fella, been scammed once before, and didn't proceed any further with the transaction. Individual scum bags like him need some vigilante justice.

 

[mfsights257]

Great to hear!!!!

 

[nettereo16]

I hope the bastard gets nailed!!! I just read this post and my situation is fitting together. Same Ken Dorr answered a WTB add I posted and tried to sell me a pair of Swarovski 8x32 EL Binos. After some pics and communication via messages I got some bad vibes about the fella, been scammed once before, and didn't proceed any further with the transaction. Individual scum bags like him need some vigilante justice.

This dirtbag has been around. He got me on a WTB ad for a scope on another forum where he got 2 other members. I've disputed the transaction with my bank as I used Zelle through the bank. We'll see...

He used the email [email protected] The name on the transaction was Raymond Brown II. Another member on this thread (@Brittereiser) almost got scammed by him and was given the name Raymond Brown at 65 South Brewer Drive, ME. This is the same address as @North Woods was given by Kenneth Dorr to mail the check for his rifle.

He used a local NC number in my case (it's easy to create a spoofing number)

If anyone else has any additional information related to this scumbag(s) please reach out to us so we can update the police reports.