Welcome & Win a Bear Hunt w/ Gypsum Creek Outfitters.

Well, you just did.

Tim has sent you a direct message, he’s trying to figure out this situation. Please check that. He’s just waiting for your reply.

Tim's DM didn't warrant a response.

100% agree I opened a can of worms. What's your preference on how to proceed? I can post the facts of what happened here, in a separate thread, or just let it go.
 
Tim's DM didn't warrant a response.

100% agree I opened a can of worms. What's your preference on how to proceed? I can post the facts of what happened here, in a separate thread, or just let it go.
The outfitter reached out to you directly to figure out the situation and you won’t even respond? He’s trying to figure out who you are and what happened to see if there’s any way to reconcile the situation or if it’s just better to part ways.

But to put up a mystery post, that’s not fair either.
 
The outfitter reached out to you directly to figure out the situation and you won’t even respond? He’s trying to figure out who you are and what happened to see if there’s any way to reconcile the situation or if it’s just better to part ways.

But to put up a mystery post, that’s not fair either.

Relationship is not salvageable. There is no remedy here that makes sense and I'm not going to respond to someone referring to me as "bud".

Ultimately my issue stems from me paying for a very green outfitter to now have the funds to give away hunts to increase his marketing reach. On top of that, this person is now running a precision shooting school as an instructor despite having no verifiable credentials that I could find (PRS competition, military/LEO, even NRA instructor certifications).
 
Relationship is not salvageable. There is no remedy here that makes sense and I'm not going to respond to someone referring to me as "bud".

Ultimately my issue stems from me paying for a very green outfitter to now have the funds to give away hunts to increase his marketing reach. On top of that, this person is now running a precision shooting school as an instructor despite having no verifiable credentials that I could find (PRS competition, military/LEO, even NRA instructor certifications).
So you’re offended because he called you, “bud”?. Come on. He’s trying to figure out who you even are.

people don’t buy hunts under their screen names. Give the guy a break. He didn’t even ask us to remove your post. He’s trying to reach out to you directly.

Every outfitter was green at some point. I guess we’ll start checking all these other shooting schools to see what their credentials are.
 
This is a positive opportunity for Roksliders. Take the innuendo to a different thread or better yet discuss the issue like a man with the outfitter.

Like Dr Phil says, even the flattest pancake has two sides…
 
So you’re offended because he called you, “bud”?. Come on. He’s trying to figure out who you even are.

people don’t buy hunts under their screen names. Give the guy a break. He didn’t even ask us to remove your post. He’s trying to reach out to you directly.

Every outfitter was green at some point. I guess we’ll start checking all these other shooting schools to see what their credentials are.

Like I said, there's no recourse here.

I was fine with remaining silent, but this guy keeps coming up in my socials and now on this forum.

I just googled "Precision Rifle Class near me" and here's the page that came up: https://www.cprifle.com/about-us

I am in total agreement you should properly vet someone prior to giving them your money, something I failed to do.
 
This is a positive opportunity for Roksliders. Take the innuendo to a different thread or better yet discuss the issue like a man with the outfitter.

Like Dr Phil says, even the flattest pancake has two sides…
You are right man, but when these guys post and ghost it always puts us in a bad situation. If we don’t say anything, reader thinks it must be true. If we take it down then it’s a big Rokslide conspiracy.
Like I said, there's no recourse here.

I was fine with remaining silent, but this guy keeps coming up in my socials and now on this forum.

I just googled "Precision Rifle Class near me" and here's the page that came up: https://www.cprifle.com/about-us

I am in total agreement you should properly vet someone prior to giving them your money, something I failed to do.
No better way to give people an opp to vet then be brave enough to come on Rokslide with your business.

And that link to his page, I guess with his partner having military sniper training that’s not a good qualification?
Wrong^. Different school.

Tim is is not a name dropper, but he’s also been trained by some of the best schools in the business.

So tell you what let’s just leave it at this. You have his DM if you would like to talk to him and he would sure like to know who you are and what he did wrong to see if he can make it right or at least not repeat that mistake. Don’t know how anyone can find any fault in that.
 
The link I posted has nothing to do with Tim's business. I'm lost now.
my bad on the link. I saw Colorado Precision and I thought that was his. But what I said about him being trained by some of the better schools that are out there is true. His DM is in your inbox if you’d like to talk to him more about it.

I don’t remember you from mile high, sorry (thanks for supporting the cause) But remember, you’re still random to Tim.
 
Hey guys. I am Tim Andrews, owner of Gypsum Creek Outfitters. We are a small operation and we try to build lifelong relationships with all our clients. We are licensed around 100,000 acres of national forest and hunt 100% public land. We are students of the craft and try to learn every day we are in the field and from every hunt we have been on. We try to take fewer people and offer the best experience possible, ensuring plenty of opportunity for our clients. It is hunting and not killing. We are by no means perfect and just try to continue growing our knowledge every year about the animals and the landscape. I am going into my 8th season as the owner of this operation and was not taught by anyone. I had over 500 miles on my boots when I took my first archery elk and have learned everything from failure. I was taught hard work pays off but that is only the starting point when it comes to public land hunting. I have shot a trophy black bear with my bow (20 11/16th skull). We have guided multiple 200+ inch mule deer, including a 242-inch buck, and we have also killed over 30 bulls in the last 7 seasons. We will continue to learn and grow. I am not on here to get clients for my outfitting business. We limit the number of days we guide in the national forest and we book up every year. We shot a nice bull elk with a client and that is when Precision Hunting Supply (formerly The Best of the West Arizona) contacted me and wanted to come teach us long range shooting. Paul and Brett have both been to my ranch multiple times to do private lessons for us and we host schools with them every year. I just got back from Texas and went down to help instruct a school with Paul. Last week we did a lesson for a dad and two sons that were 12 and 14 and both kids hit 12 inch steel plates at 928 yards. We teach to help us be better guides and take advantage of the situation when we do have a target animal in our glass. We are on here to get the word out about our bad ass archery course. This is a mile and a half from start to finish, featuring 32 3D targets all in very realistic hunting scenarios. We try to give back and have donated hunts to HOWL for wildlife and the mile high expo to help raise money and support the industry. We do not do this to get rich; it's about the lifestyle for my kids. We strive to build lifelong relationships and continue to learn and grow with every client daily. Any feedback helps us learn and move forward.
 
When will the drawing for this be?
there are usually a ton of black bear tags posted in the leftover list every year so we had August 1st in mind to draw but might need to change it to when the secondary draw is open to make sure someone can get the tag. We are very excited to be able to offer this and take someone with a passion for hunting out in the mountains. We hope to continue to get a bunch of entries and make this an annual hunt for the rokslide crew. If you have any questions please feel free to reach out anytime. Thanks
 
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