Want to know anti-hunting companies

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I try and support companies that truly are for conserving our resources and for utilizing them to include hunting and trapping. I also try and buy USA made if the product is of equal or great quality than the outside competition. Even if I have to pay slightly more.
 

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IMO a number of companies have been labeled as being anti-hunting incorrectly as many folks are not very thoughtful in their definitions. There is one retailer that donated funds for a trail repair project, but the entity running the project was anti-hunting. Is the retailer, which contributed funds to trail improvement project which may very well benefit hunters, therefore anti-hunting? Lots of hunters blew a gasket on the internet over this, but I think wrongly.
 

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They’re definitely not pro predator hunting.

And? As has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, being not pro-hunting is not inherently the same thing as being anti-hunting. The same is true when looking at what it is that people want to hunt. You'll find hunters who aren't pro-predator hunting; does that make them anti-hunting? You'll find hunters who aren't pro high-fence hunting; does that make them anti-hunting? Just because Patagucci might have a more limited view of what they consider proper or tasteful hunting doesn't make them an anti-hunting organization.
 

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So I think I know a few of the companies, but while watching The Gritty Bowmen, Aron said that MSR which is Casacades Design is anti-hunting that's why he doesn't use them. I was looking for a list of the companies so I can avoid using them. I searched on here and didn't find anything. Anything that anyone can add would be great.
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I believe you mean Jet Boil not MSR
 
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Patagonia is clearly not anti-hunting and is one of the most influential voices regarding the defense of public lands. https://gearjunkie.com/yvon-chouinard-patagonia-hunters-anglers
And? As has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, being not pro-hunting is not inherently the same thing as being anti-hunting. The same is true when looking at what it is that people want to hunt. You'll find hunters who aren't pro-predator hunting; does that make them anti-hunting? You'll find hunters who aren't pro high-fence hunting; does that make them anti-hunting? Just because Patagucci might have a more limited view of what they consider proper or tasteful hunting doesn't make them an anti-hunting organization.

Thank you... I was about to mention I hope no one is still putting Patagonia on the bad list after Yvonne Chouinard spoke at the BHA event.

I don't care if a company is against predator hunting or even pushing for more gun control. None of that shit matters if we don't have public land to recreate in. Patagonia is one of the biggest supporters of public land in the industry and I don't see the point in trying to boycott other companies that also want to protect our public land. I might even go so far as to say I wouldn't boycott an outdoor company if they WERE anti-hunting. What does boycotting do? Nothing. They will have no idea you're boycotting their products and their business will continue because other people will buy their shit.

If you want to do something about it, then organize some people and send a message to that company detailing why their anti-hunting stance is hurting their public land interest....Because hunters and anglers contribute more to public land preservation and access rights than most and we all need to work together to preserve it. Then if they tell you to kick rocks, boycott.
 

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And? As has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, being not pro-hunting is not inherently the same thing as being anti-hunting. The same is true when looking at what it is that people want to hunt. You'll find hunters who aren't pro-predator hunting; does that make them anti-hunting? You'll find hunters who aren't pro high-fence hunting; does that make them anti-hunting? Just because Patagucci might have a more limited view of what they consider proper or tasteful hunting doesn't make them an anti-hunting organization.

You have your views I have mine. I’ll stick to supporting pro hunting companies not ones that pick and choose what is tasteful and what isn’t. But in my view yes I considered Patagonia anti hunting.


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Patagonia is clearly not anti-hunting and is one of the most influential voices regarding the defense of public lands. https://gearjunkie.com/yvon-chouinard-patagonia-hunters-anglers
could not disagree more. there are some hunts and methods I vehemently disagree with on many principals. That does not make me anti hunting. Yvon Chouinard has opinions about some hunts, he is a pretty open book. You tend to know exactly how he feels about something. It does not mean the company as a whole is anti-hunting. I will gladly continue to use Patagonia wherever I can afford it. Similarly I would love to hear the thought process that went into deciding cascade designs is "anti-hunting" I know that cascade designs has very similar values that I have regarding the preservation of pristine habitat. I think i will keep my MSR stove and my thermarest gear.
 
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Thank you... I was about to mention I hope no one is still putting Patagonia on the bad list after Yvonne Chouinard spoke at the BHA event.

I don't care if a company is against predator hunting or even pushing for more gun control. None of that shit matters if we don't have public land to recreate in. Patagonia is one of the biggest supporters of public land in the industry and I don't see the point in trying to boycott other companies that also want to protect our public land. I might even go so far as to say I wouldn't boycott an outdoor company if they WERE anti-hunting. What does boycotting do? Nothing. They will have no idea you're boycotting their products and their business will continue because other people will buy their shit.

If you want to do something about it, then organize some people and send a message to that company detailing why their anti-hunting stance is hurting their public land interest....Because hunters and anglers contribute more to public land preservation and access rights than most and we all need to work together to preserve it. Then if they tell you to kick rocks, boycott.

Patagonia is firmly on the bad list with me and I don't see em coming off anytime soon.

It's pretty simple really, Patagonia supports causes that are hostile to hunting and biological based game management. In turn, I will choose to support companies that are not hostile to hunting. I share that with Patagonia and hunters who wear patagonia. Hell, I still wear patagucci stuff i bought before I was aware of this but I wont be buying any more.

Edit: define anti-hunting however you like, supporting these guys https://www.predatordefense.org/sponsors.htm is pretty damn anti-hunting to me. You think the folks against killing coyotes are supporters of deer hunters?
 
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Screw Patagonia, I have a bunch of experience with them in CA state legislative processes supporting groups pushing hard to close areas to fishing, meanwhile using marketing materials that exploit interest in the fishing/spearfishing community. Total bullshit. they’re happy to profit on our community but refuse to stand with us and advocate for science based resource management when it counts.
 

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could not disagree more. there are some hunts and methods I vehemently disagree with on many principals. That does not make me anti hunting. Yvon Chouinard has opinions about some hunts, he is a pretty open book. You tend to know exactly how he feels about something. It does not mean the company as a whole is anti-hunting. I will gladly continue to use Patagonia wherever I can afford it. Similarly I would love to hear the thought process that went into deciding cascade designs is "anti-hunting" I know that cascade designs has very similar values that I have regarding the preservation of pristine habitat. I think i will keep my MSR stove and my thermarest gear.
Wait so you agree or disagree?
 

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The majority of things we own probably are not pro hunting and most likely support anti in some fashion. Take inventory of what you own looking around your house.
 
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Screw Patagonia, I have a bunch of experience with them in CA state legislative processes supporting groups pushing hard to close areas to fishing, meanwhile using marketing materials that exploit interest in the fishing/spearfishing community. Total bullshit. they’re happy to profit on our community but refuse to stand with us and advocate for science based resource management when it counts.
They make waders and other fishing gear. Doesn't make sense!
 

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They make waders and other fishing gear. Doesn't make sense

Kind of my point, they’re happy to cash in on the community, but I have experience with them working in opposition to science based fisheries management. To be clear, no problem with the company taking the position it takes, it just leaves a bad impression when they try to present themselves as a lifestyle brand for fisherman/spearfisherman and then advocate against the interests of that group.
 

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The double-negatives being used in this conversation are making my head spin. Are we against anti-non-hunting? There are a lot of pro-anti-non-hunting posts making it clear that our community is being negatively divided against unification. I’m sure if it.


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Did someone mention gerber?

Someone splain this one to me?

Randy Newberg is sponsored by gerber, how are they anti?
They donated some money to Oregon wild which is pro predator. I'll leave it up to you to decide if that's anti hunting or not

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