VPA 3 blade Elk

[Idaboy]

VPA, Hellrazor, Snuffer, any of those style heads will blow through an elk like butter. All are based on the same concept. With your bow setup, I'd make sure there are no elk behind the one you're shooting that's for sure.

Been using slick trick standard vented with pretty good luck. Blades don't always seem the sharpest out of box and I find it PITA to sharpen. These VPA seem easy to touch up, will be a little smaller hole than the Slick trick 4 blade.

 

[Coveyleader]

Been using slick trick standard vented with pretty good luck. Blades don't always seem the sharpest out of box and I find it PITA to sharpen. These VPA seem easy to touch up, will be a little smaller hole than the Slick trick 4 blade.

I've shot a number of elk with slick tricks, and another 7-10 at least with Hellrazors (very similar to VPAs) and never had trouble with penetration, or blood trails. Most fell in sight so no real trailing needed. Slick tricks work well, but I prefer COC type heads over them as if I'm faced with a frontal shot, I have no worries with my slow setup. Slick tricks are not what I would call a good penetrating head unless you're talking the vipertrick but its a small head and I used my last one two years ago.

Exit this year, he didn't go 20yds after the shot, and arrow went though like butter. One thing nice about those types of heads is you can shoot them to see how each flys, and then simply touch them up.

 

[SDHNTR]

I like the omega way better from flight stand point. I had both vented and solid 3 blade versions and they were some worst flying heads I ever used. Even from a hooter shooter the groups were terrible.

A hooter shooter does not make up for a bow that might be out of tune.

Yes, there may be more forgiving heads out there (smaller) but to make a blanket statement that these heads do not fly well just because they did not out of your individual bow, is misleading.

It’s the same concept with certain bullets out of certain barrels.

 

[Trial153]

A hooter shooter does not make up for a bow that might be out of tune.

Yes, there may be more forgiving heads out there (smaller) but to make a blanket statement that these heads do not fly well just because they did not out of your individual bow, is misleading.

It’s the same concept with certain bullets out of certain barrels.

The bows, plural, more than one were tuned, and yes I can tune and bow better than most ...thanks. I don't mess with bullets or barrels so I can't help you there. Nothing misleading at all, since I am relaying what I have experienced and witnessed. I have yet to see a head plane as bad as three bladed VPAs.

 

[SDHNTR]

The bows, plural, more than one were tuned, and yes I can tune and bow better than most ...thanks. I don't mess with bullets or barrels so I can't help you there. Nothing misleading at all, since I am relaying what I have experienced and witnessed. I have yet to see a head plane as bad as three bladed VPAs.

So are they still bad if I’ve been able to get them to fly true, with minimal effort and zero planing, out of no less than a dozen different bows?

This is the same thing as the dude who says Remington core locts suck because they weren’t accurate out of my gun. Yet the next guy prints tiny groups with em. They just didn’t like your setup. It’s not the bullet’s (broadhead) fault!

Blanket statements are not helpful with small sample sizes.

 

[Trial153]

So are they still bad if I’ve been able to get them to fly true, with minimal effort and zero planing, out of no less than a dozen different bows?

This is the same thing as the dude who says Remington core locts suck because they weren’t accurate out of my gun. Yet the next guy prints tiny groups with em. They just didn’t like your setup. It’s not the bullet’s (broadhead) fault!

Blanket statements are not helpful with small sample sizes.

I didn't say they are bad, I said they planed terrible. If someone control group size is a 10inch circle at 50 yards well maybe they would be just fine for them.
You're the one making blanket statements. In some cases, it IS the broadhead's fault. The fact is not all broadheads are equally accurate. They are not all equally aerodynamic, and they don't all have the same combination of tolerances and design. Most of us cannot shoot well enough to measure it however. But if you're willing to, you could look and see that there are studies that specifically show Broadhead displacement and measure group size, and shocker.....no they are not all the same.
When Broadhead X shoots within your margin of error( with no less than a dozen bows, of course) all it means is that the broadhead shoots better than your control. It does not mean it's inherently accurate, it's just accurate enough for you..

 

[Idaboy]

Well, fixed blades can be PITA. It does seem that over a certain speed, and distance for that matter, you start asking for problems.

I've also found tolerances on inserts and then also on the threads of the BH, can be off, leading to wobble and inconsistent spin

 

[Idaboy]

I've shot a number of elk with slick tricks, and another 7-10 at least with Hellrazors (very similar to VPAs) and never had trouble with penetration, or blood trails. Most fell in sight so no real trailing needed. Slick tricks work well, but I prefer COC type heads over them as if I'm faced with a frontal shot, I have no worries with my slow setup. Slick tricks are not what I would call a good penetrating head unless you're talking the vipertrick but its a small head and I used my last one two years ago.

Exit this year, he didn't go 20yds after the shot, and arrow went though like butter. One thing nice about those types of heads is you can shoot them to see how each flys, and then simply touch them up.

So for "cut on contact" you mean a full balde to end like VPA, Iron Will, Hellrazor....and other fixed blade with a ferrule, (like standard slick trick, standard muzzy) is not "cut on contact"?

 

[Coveyleader]

So for "cut on contact" you mean a full balde to end like VPA, Iron Will, Hellrazor....and other fixed blade with a ferrule, (like standard slick trick, standard muzzy) is not "cut on contact"?

Exactly