Vortex Razor UHD 8X32 and 10X32 Mid Size Binoculars

So after a couple months I’m on the fence about them, they seem to be a bit more finicky to get behind than my Vipers which is my only real complaint. That being said for as small and light as they are they seem to be optically better than the Vipers which is pretty impressive considering the difference in objective size and exit pupil.

I’ll have to spend some time with them in the woods this fall, I’ve been using my Vioers for 4 years now so the new binoculars will probably take some getting used to. If nothing else the wife enjoys them so they may become her binoculars when we go on walks.

Also on the sales, points and cash back side, after everything was said and done they cost me $6.63.
 
So after a couple months I’m on the fence about them, they seem to be a bit more finicky to get behind than my Vipers which is my only real complaint.

Getting behind the smaller exit pupil of the 8x32 UHD vs the 10x50 Viper may account for the more finicky experience you described.
 
Getting behind the smaller exit pupil of the 8x32 UHD vs the 10x50 Viper may account for the more finicky experience you described.

I figured that was probably the reason, hopefully as I get more used to them it won’t bother me as much.
 
So after a couple months I’m on the fence about them, they seem to be a bit more finicky to get behind than my Vipers which is my only real complaint. That being said for as small and light as they are they seem to be optically better than the Vipers which is pretty impressive considering the difference in objective size and exit pupil.

I’ll have to spend some time with them in the woods this fall, I’ve been using my Vioers for 4 years now so the new binoculars will probably take some getting used to. If nothing else the wife enjoys them so they may become her binoculars when we go on walks.

Also on the sales, points and cash back side, after everything was said and done they cost me $6.63.
Let us know about your findings. Very interested in the low light performance
 
Let us know about your findings. Very interested in the low light performance

So after a couple more months they are definitely growing on me. I figured out the finicky eye box can be mitigated by where I rest the binoculars. With my vipers I would always back the eyecups out halfway and using the lower inside of my eye socket just below the tear ducts as my anchor point.

When I try that with the Razors I end up with a lot of black as I move my eye to look around the image. If I instead back the eyecup out one notch and use the top inside edge of my eye socket just below my eyebrow I get a clear image I can look around without issue. This makes them way more pleasant to use.

For lowlight performance just last night I was out watching deer at our local park until almost 30 minutes after sunset. Despite the smaller objective they seemed to be just as bright if not slightly more than my 10x50 Vipers.

The only downside is the lower magnification does make it harder to spot details at distance, not a binocular specific issue just an observation as I only have experience with these two binoculars. For example on Saturday I was driving looking across a field and something caught my eye so I stopped to look. I look through the 8x32 and saw that it was three turkeys moving up and into the field. I looked with the 10x50 and immediately noticed that they were gobblers, something I missed with the 8x32 at first.

This is most likely due to the fact they were 600+ yards away but at that distance the field of view on the 8x32 is substantially more noticeable in how much more I could see. Since I typically carry a 13-39 Razor spotter with me I’d rather have the wider field of view.

So overall I like them a lot so far, hunting season will be the real test as I spend a bunch of time picking apart cover in a clear cut to find deer.
 
I finally got a chance to play with the 8x32s last week. Noticeably wider FOV than my Viper HD 8x42s, but yes -- the eyebox was much harder to stay in when hand holding.

I'm starting to think 6x32 or 6.5x32 might be in my future.
 
I finally got a chance to play with the 8x32s last week. Noticeably wider FOV than my Viper HD 8x42s, but yes -- the eyebox was much harder to stay in when hand holding.

I'm starting to think 6x32 or 6.5x32 might be in my future.

Many hunters underestimate how important exit pupil can be to viewing experience. The ability to float your eye pupil inside a larger exit pupil has a stabilizing effect.

People often notice how much more finicky the “eye box” is in low light for a particular optic. The difference is their eye pupil has dilated to a size where it may be even larger than the exit pupil of the optic, making alignment critical.
 
Does any one have any experience to how the UHD models compare to the lower end Razor HD 10x42 and 8x42 models.
 
Man the fov is crazy on the 8x32… wondering between them and the Zeiss 8x40 sfl… but definitely want a super wide fov bino, but I’m not gonna drop NL pure coin on 8x at the moment
 
The 8x32s were impressive on several levels, but I've come to appreciate exit pupil and eyebox more than I suspected. I'd dig deep if they offered a 6.5x32 variant of these.
 
I have a Meostar HD, Gold Ring HD, SLC, ELSV, and 8x32 UHD. The FOV in the UHD blows them all away, it's sharp to 90% of the field, it's very well made, super sharp optics, everything works very smoothly. It takes a back seat to none of my others. The one for sale here under $1000 is a steal.
 
I have a Meostar HD, Gold Ring HD, SLC, ELSV, and 8x32 UHD. The FOV in the UHD blows them all away, it's sharp to 90% of the field, it's very well made, super sharp optics, everything works very smoothly. It takes a back seat to none of my others. The one for sale here under $1000 is a steal.
Any exit pupil complaints? The 470 fov is calling me, compared to the 420 of the zeiss 8x sfl’s…
 
Any exit pupil complaints? The 470 fov is calling me, compared to the 420 of the zeiss 8x sfl’s…
I just started having to wear glasses full time, so I've had to adjust to that, but no, the eyecups have several adjustable stops so you shouldn't have any at all. The depth of field is outstanding as well.
 
I just started having to wear glasses full time, so I've had to adjust to that, but no, the eyecups have several adjustable stops so you shouldn't have any at all. The depth of field is outstanding as well.
I also wear glasses, so that is good to know. Yeah I can snag these at 1k… they will be my next bino purchase for sure 👍
 
We have 8x42 UHD razor and the glass is excellent. Also have Swaro EL 12x50 and Razor 10xXX range finding which are good but not same clarity of the UHD/Swaro. First world problems!!
 
So after a couple months I’m on the fence about them, they seem to be a bit more finicky to get behind than my Vipers which is my only real complaint. That being said for as small and light as they are they seem to be optically better than the Vipers which is pretty impressive considering the difference in objective size and exit pupil.

I’ll have to spend some time with them in the woods this fall, I’ve been using my Vioers for 4 years now so the new binoculars will probably take some getting used to. If nothing else the wife enjoys them so they may become her binoculars when we go on walks.

Also on the sales, points and cash back side, after everything was said and done they cost me $6.63.
I too struggled a bit with the finicky eye box when I first picked up the 8x32 UHDs. Coming from Viper 10x42s, the 8x32s were definitely more picky about how I placed my binoculars to my face / eyes.

Normally I would run my 10x42 Vipers with the eye cups all the way out, pressed into my eye sockets. Doing that on the UHD 8x32s didn't work quite as well at first, causing me to have kidney beaning (blackout) issues. But, after speaking to a few people about it, including a couple of people at Vortex, I tried a few of their techniques which helped dramatically.

The main thing that helped me was learning the method of keeping the eye cups more in, 1-2 clicks up only, and then resting only the top of the eye cups against the lower part of my eye brows. From there, I almost am looking downward ever so slightly into the binoculars which was what a Vortex member told to do. That immediately gave me the full image without as many kidney beaning issues.

After working with them for a couple of weeks, glassing every morning, every evening, and during the middle of the day off of my back deck, I noticed myself getting more muscle memory for how to place my eyes. I even got to where I could comfortably glass with the eye cups all the way in which as a non-glasses wearer seemed very foreign to me. But let me tell you, when you get that down, it opens up a whole new world of glassing with these binos as you no longer feel like your looking down a barrel and instead are getting a completely full image which almost magnifies the entire 472' field of view. Learning to glass like that with these binoculars has completely changed how I view FOV and how I glass as a whole.

Now that I've worked with them for a couple of weeks, I not only feel really comfortable with them, but I also feel like I have learned how to more properly look through binoculars as a whole. When picking up my 10x42 Vipers now, I back the eye cups down and get a much more immersive experience even with them. It's almost like the 8x32s forced me to learn how to properly use binoculars.

In the end, I not only decided to keep the 8x32 UHDs, I also now feel confident that I don't need anything else on me other than these chest binos, a good spotting scope, and a compact range finder. The 8x chest binos to find game, the spotting scope for details, and the rangefinder to help me make the shot. I don't feel like I'm losing much magnification compared to to my 10x42s (I could see the same barn and count the same number of bails of hay that are 1.3 miles away from my deck with both), but the field of view advantage compared to 10x42s is massive.

Also, for lowlight, these do very well. I compared them to not only my 10x42 Vipers, but also a pair of 8x42 Razor HDs that I borrowed for a week. The 8x32s beat the Viper 10x42s out in lowlight which I'm sure is due to better glass and the fact that the 8x32s aren't far behind in exit pupil size (4 on the 8x32s and 4.2 on the 10x42s). Compared to the 8x42 Razor HDs, the 8x32 UHDs definitely have better glass, and the field of view difference between the two is almost laughable which in some ways makes the 8x32s feel better in lowlight simply because you're seeing so much more.

That said, there was a point right after legal shooting light ended that I could pick up some beams on my neighbor's pole barn that's across a pasture with the 8x42s, but I couldn't see them at all with the 8x32s. But, that was a bit after legal shooting light (30 minutes after sunset) had ended. I've found in real world use that I could still see deer from my deck up until about 10 minutes after legal shooting time with the 8x32s which is great.

I'm sure a pair of larger binoculars, such as 8x42 UHDs, would give me the ability to see into dark timber at the beginning and end of an archery hunt a little better than the 8x32s, but the 8x32s are still good in my opinion in those situations, and the massive FOV you gain, along with the size and weight savings, make them much better to work with throughout a hunt or scouting trip than a larger set of 8x42s or 10x42s. They aren't NL Pures, but they sure are hard to beat when compared to anything under the $2K price point. I think they are a winner.
 
Glad you got it figured out HillCountry. That little gap you're using now will also keep the front lenses from getting fogged up in cold weather due to the increased airflow.
 
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