Vivo forest tracker esc durability

[Nine Banger]

I see several mongolian companies on etsy offering camel socks. Are they all the same or just Mongulai being the preferred choice? Additionally, on Mongulai, they have two options in camel, 100% and 70% versions.

Just get them on the Mongulai website; it's cheaper than Etsy.

I think the only reason to get them on Etsy could be if you only want one pair.

 

[cubdriver84d]

Just get them on the Mongulai website; it's cheaper than Etsy.

I think the only reason to get them on Etsy could be if you only want one pair.

There were reports of people getting hit with extra duty fees when they ship from Mongolia.

 

[cubdriver84d]

I see several mongolian companies on etsy offering camel socks. Are they all the same or just Mongulai being the preferred choice? Additionally, on Mongulai, they have two options in camel, 100% and 70% versions.

If they look like the ones that mongulai sells they are going to be the same ones (“Tod” brand). 100% is what you want.

 

[Nine Banger]

There were reports of people getting hit with extra duty fees when they ship from Mongolia.

They state on the site that the specific socks we are discussing ship from inside the US on the website.

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

FWIW I bought a pair of yak wool socks from mongulai (and got hit with fees) thinking they were going to be the be all end all warmest socks. I wear injinji synthetic toe liners underneath to move the moisture away. They were no warmer or dryer than darn tough, smart wool, first lite etc.

 

[24valve]

FWIW I bought a pair of yak wool socks from mongulai (and got hit with fees) thinking they were going to be the be all end all warmest socks. I wear injinji synthetic toe liners underneath to move the moisture away. They were no warmer or dryer than darn tough, smart wool, first lite etc.

To clarify, you wear the toe liners underneath both the 100% yak and other more common merino blend socks?

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

To clarify, you wear the toe liners underneath both the 100% yak and other more common merino blend socks?

Correct.

 

[24valve]

Correct.

In that case, I would guess that the synthetic liners are either doing their job and wicking moisture away from your feet and making them feel dry and warm regardless of the wool sock outside of them, or somewhat doing their job and making them feel damp and warmish regardless of the wool sock outside of them. I have not used liners in either so I cannot compare personal experience.

However, I have used darn tough. smart wool, first lite, yak, and camel wool socks all without synthetic liners and can say there is a significant difference in warmth/dry feeling with the 100% yak and camel sock as compared to merino blends. I suspect that they feel warmer because my feet feel drier.

If the liners improve the damp feeling of the merino blend socks, I might have to give them a try.

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

In that case, I would guess that the synthetic liners are either doing their job and wicking moisture away from your feet and making them feel dry and warm regardless of the wool sock outside of them, or somewhat doing their job and making them feel damp and warmish regardless of the wool sock outside of them. I have not used liners in either so I cannot compare personal experience.

However, I have used darn tough. smart wool, first lite, yak, and camel wool socks all without synthetic liners and can say there is a significant difference in warmth/dry feeling with the 100% yak and camel sock as compared to merino blends. I suspect that they feel warmer because my feet feel drier.

If the liners improve the damp feeling of the merino blend socks, I might have to give them a try.

Yes, the liners keep my feet completely dry. Especially between each toe. My feet still get cold though. For reference I'm talking about approximately 15-25 degrees, standing on a metal saddle platform for all day sits. Not enough to make me leave though, big bucks don't shoot themselves. Late morning is the hardest time to get through. A lot of times my toes end up going completely numb. This last one I shot, I realized when I got up to him that I couldn't feel my 4 little toes on either foot at all.

 

[Formidilosus]

Yes, the liners keep my feet completely dry. Especially between each toe. My feet still get cold though. For reference I'm talking about approximately 15-25 degrees, standing on a metal saddle platform for all day sits. Not enough to make me leave though, big bucks don't shoot themselves. Late morning is the hardest time to get through. A lot of times my toes end up going completely numb. This last one I shot, I realized when I got up to him that I couldn't feel my 4 little toes on either foot at all.

No sock will change that. You need real cold weather shoes.

The yak and camel wool socks do change it for most people when hiking in and out backpack hunting however.

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

No sock will change that. You need real cold weather shoes.

The yak and camel wool socks do change it for most people when hiking in and out backpack hunting however.

Yea I will use them when I do those types of activities.

 

[Shraggs]

Maybe a dumb question…

Relatively new tracker esc’s (not new to barefoot). They are great, wondering for those who have lots of miles/use in hind sight would you treat leather and some seam seal early or wait till they loose waterproofing?

 

[Dobermann]

Maybe a dumb question…

Relatively new tracker esc’s (not new to barefoot). They are great, wondering for those who have lots of miles/use in hind sight would you treat leather and some seam seal early or wait till they loose waterproofing?

I just used the Vivo Renapur straight away, as main use was in 3D archery comps on a site with multiple creek crossings and a lot of mud. Slight rand separation but still waterproof so far.

 

[FZMT]

I’ll be using the Taos and Hok’s side by side in February.

How did the Taos end up comparing to the Hoks?

 

[HighUintas]

Maybe a dumb question…

Relatively new tracker esc’s (not new to barefoot). They are great, wondering for those who have lots of miles/use in hind sight would you treat leather and some seam seal early or wait till they loose waterproofing?

From my heavily used single pair....
I'd condition them minimally or at least do very light applications. I'd also consider putting some barge or aqua seal on the stitching and leather/outsole boundary straight away.

This i will do on my next pair

 

[kylem]

I’m planning to pick up a pair of Trackers this winter and get my feet used to them before I use them for next season. One thing I’m wondering is there any reason to possibly consider the Magnas instead? These would be used primarily for spring bear, archery elk, and into October mule deer before it gets too cold. Also for a little context I ran around all this September chasing Idaho elk with a pair of Inov8 trail runners so using shorter footwear isn’t new to me.

 

[HighUintas]

I’m planning to pick up a pair of Trackers this winter and get my feet used to them before I use them for next season. One thing I’m wondering is there any reason to possibly consider the Magnas instead? These would be used primarily for spring bear, archery elk, and into October mule deer before it gets too cold. Also for a little context I ran around all this September chasing Idaho elk with a pair of Inov8 trail runners so using shorter footwear isn’t new to me.

Maybe less water resistant due to the fabric tongue and gusset if there is one. Otherwise I don't see why not

 

[yeky83]

Maybe less water resistant due to the fabric tongue and gusset if there is one. Otherwise I don't see why not

Yup, I have both and the Magnas fit & wear great like the Forest Trackers. Really like how you can just slip it on, which is what I do with the Trackers too but still, more so cus it’s a shorter shoe. Significantly less water resistant though, walking through some brush with morning due gets the tongue wet pretty quick. Nice for when it’s dry and there’s not too much brush to worry about around the ankles.