Vivo Barefoot Tundra ESC Review

For the foam and wool did you just buy a sheet and cut it to match or was it a specific product.

I have an extra thermal insole from vivo that would fit fine inside the wool either between the liner and the will insole or more likely on top of it. I assume you put the wool inside the the foam underneath?

Stock configuration did fine while deer hunting but it was a touch warm and planning for the MN winter.

Considering ordering a vivo thermal insole in size 15 to go under the liner and then could keep the 12 inside it or order some wool and cut something to fit.

My motivation for the foam was to add a cold ground barrier when feet will be standing or sitting for long periods of time, ie deer stand. The vivo wool liner is very warm, but it’s at its thinnest and less warm in the bottom standing.

Anyone can experiment- socks on, stand on a piece of foam on cold garage - foam vs your sock or a felt liner vs a foam and see the difference.

UPS store has rolled foam in different thickness, 1/8, 1/4, 3/8 etc. It’s firm and doesn’t compress and looks like that cracked ice plexiglass if that makes sense. Yes it goes under the wool liner. I took the whole liner out and traced the exact size.

Many boot companies have used this type of foam as insulation in the “midsole” for ground up barrier and wrapping under the rubber/leather in pack boots.

I’m a size 10 but bought the 11 so I have room to play with bottom foam, thicker insole and socks. I could have gone 3/8” foam and kept the vivo 5mm insole, but I thought the 1/4” foam was better coupled with a thicker insole, and a medium yak wool sock and liner.

The alpaca I found on Etsy looks similar to your link and are supposed to be 9mm. They are less though, bought xxl so I could match the shape of toe box. Again they do add warmth over standard standing on cold.

Form was also right about something I recall he said, his feet sweat a lot or more in alpaca wool. I certainly feel alpaca is more sweaty than other woods. I’ll be looking for optional wool insoles.

I might have misunderstood, but I would not but any insole that has structure in the wool liner. From experience it will wear damage to the interior of the liner and negates the barefoot premise of these unique boots.
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
I didn’t size up, the Tundras feel/are larger internally than the Forest ESC.

If your size is in stock and you order now you should receive them in a few days, last year they sold out relatively quickly.

Overall, mine are great, I would like it if Vivo sold spare inner liners as is the standard for Mukluk style boots.
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
I would only size up if you feel you’d like a little more warmth. This may be more a whitetail stand hunting then western. I do both, and a bit more ground warmth was desired. On their own they are very warm and comfortable.

In my experiments there are three ways to take advantage of slightly bigger boot. Thicker wool insole, adding foam or felt under the whole liner or thicker socks (which would not be my choice).

If you’re mainly a western mountain hunter just get your size. If you’re also doing extended whitetail long sits it’s a consideration but not necessary.
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
I didn't size up and have room for a toe liner and a yak sock.

Mine came in 4-5 days.
 
I ordered my normal size and have plenty of room for thick socks or an extra insole. I really like my initial experience with them, very light and warm.
 
My feet were cold yesterday with a yak sock and winter trackers.

Conditions: offshore, fiberglass boat, windy, 39 degrees. RH 71-83%.

I wish I had brought a pair of toe liners to put on at lunch time and see if it made a big difference.
 
Anyone try the Jungle Esc? Debating on getting a pair for canoe tripping in the summer. I use the forest and winter trackers all the time and picked up the tundras this year.

If they jungles are good I might just have all my bases covered and be able to retire my tevas
 
Anyone try the Jungle Esc? Debating on getting a pair for canoe tripping in the summer. I use the forest and winter trackers all the time and picked up the tundras this year.

If they jungles are good I might just have all my bases covered and be able to retire my tevas
Not to derail your question but... Are the winter trackers much of an insulation upgrade over the forrest trackers?
 
Not to derail your question but... Are the winter trackers much of an insulation upgrade over the forrest trackers?

I guess it depends. I live in MN and will wear the regular trackers anywhere that I will wear regular shoes which generally means I will wear them outside but generally not if I am walking through more than a little bit of snow.

The winter trackers especially with good socks I think are fine for any outdoor winter ACTIVE activity unless cold is extreme. Im not sure the insulation is great at protecting from just straight cold but its enough of a layer between your feet and snow to make a difference in what I will use them for.

As an example to get to my cabin in the winter you have to snowshoe aways. Regular forest esc I would have cold feet, tundras are overkill given levels of exertion, the winter trackers are perfect for that.

So maybe to rephrase I think they are great for most winter activities that are fully active but no so much for a "hike then sit and glass" type scenario. In terms of hunting thats a pretty niche use case. In terms of living in MN over the winters its a very high use case for me.
 
I'll agree, the winter trackers are great for on the move activity in cold weather. I wouldn't hesitate to use them down to single digits while actively moving. If stationary for any time at all your feet are going to get cold. I love them for hiking in the winter but I'd compare them to maybe 400g of thinsulate insulation at most.

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I'll agree, the winter trackers are great for on the move activity in cold weather. I wouldn't hesitate to use them down to single digits while actively moving. If stationary for any time at all your feet are going to get cold. I love them for hiking in the winter but I'd compare them to maybe 400g of thinsulate insulation at most.

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Yea I look at them as a replacement for my 400g boots or with the yack socks a replacement of my 800g used with regular merino socks. The Tundras replace my pack boots. Together they make a good tool kit.

I do also carry arctic shield boot blankets in my pack if I want to hike in with the lighter boots but then perhaps do some sitting.
 
My feet were cold yesterday with a yak sock and winter trackers.

Conditions: offshore, fiberglass boat, windy, 39 degrees. RH 71-83%.

I wish I had brought a pair of toe liners to put on at lunch time and see if it made a big difference.
I love My winter trackers too but your conditions with high humidity and wind is pretty cold for a lightly insulated boot in my opinion, just not enough loft/space to trap heat your barely making somewhat static.

This whitetail season I’ve been doing a lot of static stand boot comparisons. With the winter trackers once I’m stationed I’ll throw the arctic shield covers on and I’m good to just below freezing for a few hours without adding a heat pack.
 
Not to derail your question but... Are the winter trackers much of an insulation upgrade over the forrest trackers?
Not Speaks, but I have both and the winter trackers are noticeably warmer. It should be noted that I run warm warm in general and have replaced the vivo thermal insole with a wool-felt one cut to size, which does help ground conduction.

The best example was at the 2025 S2H winter course, where there was a variety of boots being used in the same, semi-static way in subzero conditions. My feet were warmer than those with conventional hunting boots, even insulated ones (likely because of the additional room in the winter trackers, which allowed for more circulation and doubled-up wool socks), but they still got chilled and were nowhere near as warm as those with mukluk-style boots.
 
Anyone try the Jungle Esc? Debating on getting a pair for canoe tripping in the summer. I use the forest and winter trackers all the time and picked up the tundras this year.

If they jungles are good I might just have all my bases covered and be able to retire my tevas
I think Lawnbi may???
 
Anyone try the Jungle Esc? Debating on getting a pair for canoe tripping in the summer. I use the forest and winter trackers all the time and picked up the tundras this year.

If they jungles are good I might just have all my bases covered and be able to retire my tevas

Vivo makes a a couple of aqua shoes if you don’t need a boot that are cheaper. I see them every now and then on sierra trading post and always consider getting a pair.


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