Vivo Barefoot Tundra ESC Review

For the foam and wool did you just buy a sheet and cut it to match or was it a specific product.

I have an extra thermal insole from vivo that would fit fine inside the wool either between the liner and the will insole or more likely on top of it. I assume you put the wool inside the the foam underneath?

Stock configuration did fine while deer hunting but it was a touch warm and planning for the MN winter.

Considering ordering a vivo thermal insole in size 15 to go under the liner and then could keep the 12 inside it or order some wool and cut something to fit.

My motivation for the foam was to add a cold ground barrier when feet will be standing or sitting for long periods of time, ie deer stand. The vivo wool liner is very warm, but it’s at its thinnest and less warm in the bottom standing.

Anyone can experiment- socks on, stand on a piece of foam on cold garage - foam vs your sock or a felt liner vs a foam and see the difference.

UPS store has rolled foam in different thickness, 1/8, 1/4, 3/8 etc. It’s firm and doesn’t compress and looks like that cracked ice plexiglass if that makes sense. Yes it goes under the wool liner. I took the whole liner out and traced the exact size.

Many boot companies have used this type of foam as insulation in the “midsole” for ground up barrier and wrapping under the rubber/leather in pack boots.

I’m a size 10 but bought the 11 so I have room to play with bottom foam, thicker insole and socks. I could have gone 3/8” foam and kept the vivo 5mm insole, but I thought the 1/4” foam was better coupled with a thicker insole, and a medium yak wool sock and liner.

The alpaca I found on Etsy looks similar to your link and are supposed to be 9mm. They are less though, bought xxl so I could match the shape of toe box. Again they do add warmth over standard standing on cold.

Form was also right about something I recall he said, his feet sweat a lot or more in alpaca wool. I certainly feel alpaca is more sweaty than other woods. I’ll be looking for optional wool insoles.

I might have misunderstood, but I would not but any insole that has structure in the wool liner. From experience it will wear damage to the interior of the liner and negates the barefoot premise of these unique boots.
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
I didn’t size up, the Tundras feel/are larger internally than the Forest ESC.

If your size is in stock and you order now you should receive them in a few days, last year they sold out relatively quickly.

Overall, mine are great, I would like it if Vivo sold spare inner liners as is the standard for Mukluk style boots.
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
I would only size up if you feel you’d like a little more warmth. This may be more a whitetail stand hunting then western. I do both, and a bit more ground warmth was desired. On their own they are very warm and comfortable.

In my experiments there are three ways to take advantage of slightly bigger boot. Thicker wool insole, adding foam or felt under the whole liner or thicker socks (which would not be my choice).

If you’re mainly a western mountain hunter just get your size. If you’re also doing extended whitetail long sits it’s a consideration but not necessary.
 
I fn hate this forum.... Did you size up any for thick socks and if so how much? How fast did yall get em? I read somewhere Form waited like a year or something crazy...
I didn't size up and have room for a toe liner and a yak sock.

Mine came in 4-5 days.
 
I ordered my normal size and have plenty of room for thick socks or an extra insole. I really like my initial experience with them, very light and warm.
 
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