Utah gone crazy.

States across the west will be more and more pro-resident and structure their draw systems accordingly as opportunity decreases. Technology will increase harvest rates and opportunity will decrease, in most cases the 'non-residents' will pay the price.
 
It's getting ridiculous!
I would have sat out the year in protest, but our license is still good, so I guess I'll give it one more year. I'll definitely be contemplating next year, depending on how the odds shake out after the increase.
Anyone giving up on UT?
I'm out for OIL species, I would not be happy getting a $4-5K charge on my credit card. Same reason I don't apply for AZ's $5k bison tag.

Deer/elk/antelope/antlerless might still be worth it to me, so I'll probably keep putting in for those depending on how odds and fees look next year.
 
The "multi-season" seems to imply that you can buy a $4k license and hunt archery, ML, rifle until you get your bull. Is that right?
 
The "multi-season" seems to imply that you can buy a $4k license and hunt archery, ML, rifle until you get your bull. Is that right?
You can DRAW that tag and yes hunt archery, muzzy and any weapon hunts. Never met anyone or even read of anyone who has drawn one of them as a NR…pretty rare.
 
I think the idea is that public land hunting should be something that everyone can afford to do.
Public land hiking is something everyone can afford. Hunting the critters there is a different story.

NR big game hunting for premier species like elk in the west for the "middle class" (whatever that is) is becoming a historical oddity. Sure it can be done with saving money and budgeting time but there is zero incentive to make NR hunting cheap for such a limited resource.

As long as elk hunting is affordable for residents and the GF departments can be adequately funded by a few non residents then the states just keep moving along. Fairness is not in play. Almost everyone gets budgeted out of some types of hunting/fishing if you reach high enough. The Bill of Rights does not include a NR moose/elk/sheep tag.

How soon will Colorado jump their NR elk tag fees?
 
Public land hiking is something everyone can afford. Hunting the critters there is a different story.

NR big game hunting for premier species like elk in the west for the "middle class" (whatever that is) is becoming a historical oddity. Sure it can be done with saving money and budgeting time but there is zero incentive to make NR hunting cheap for such a limited resource.

As long as elk hunting is affordable for residents and the GF departments can be adequately funded by a few non residents then the states just keep moving along. Fairness is not in play. Almost everyone gets budgeted out of some types of hunting/fishing if you reach high enough. The Bill of Rights does not include a NR moose/elk/sheep tag.

How soon will Colorado jump their NR elk tag fees?
Yup - hunting is a luxury.
 
Non res elk hunting has become a situation of catering to the haves and have nots. Yes, anyone can budget for a $4000 elk tag I suppose but for the general public it's no longer realistic. Many people love going west for the "western hunt" and the likely result will be pursing other game such as pronghorns or mule deer
 
Non res elk hunting has become a situation of catering to the haves and have nots. Yes, anyone can budget for a $4000 elk tag I suppose but for the general public it's no longer realistic. Many people love going west for the "western hunt" and the likely result will be pursing other game such as pronghorns or mule deer
Odds aren't dropping so people are still applying and paying

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Personally, this gave me hope to finally draw tags in Utah again. I'm fine with it.
If you've been priced out by the changes, look at the real root cause. Demand has gone through the roof. Why?
 
Personally, this gave me hope to finally draw tags in Utah again. I'm fine with it.
If you've been priced out by the changes, look at the real root cause. Demand has gone through the roof. Why?

Why?

Well it is certainly not the quality of the animals or the Utah experience so I’ll go with influencer propaganda preying on an ignorant public and greed of the UDWR and their handlers at SFW…
 
Why?

Well it is certainly not the quality of the animals or the Utah experience so I’ll go with influencer propaganda preying on an ignorant public and greed of the UDWR and their handlers at SFW…
Greed or not, increasing demand and limited supply does two things; creates shortages, and drives up prices. I'll take higher prices for tags over shortages.
Agreed on the influencer issue.
 
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