Uphill Athlete

[Dave_S]

Curious to hear if anyone has used one of Uphill Athlete's programs. If so, which one(s) and what did you think of it?

 

[JohnB]

Curious to hear if anyone has used one of Uphill Athlete's programs. If so, which one(s) and what did you think of it?

Look into Evoke Endurance. One of the UA founders as well as something like 17 out of 18 total coaches all chose to leave UA and found a separate company. Their products are very similar.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

I have the book, training for the new alpinism, which mentions uphill athlete and had some level of author affiliation. Cool concepts, but it's not feasible for me to work out 3+ hours per day, or to do 2 a days. Also, elk hunting is not the same as climbing in the Himalayas. Ymmv.

 

[Dave_S]

I feel like heard one of their people on a podcast….can’t remember which one. I’ll check them out. Thanks!


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[Dave_S]

I have the book, training for the new alpinism, which mentions uphill athlete and had some level of author affiliation. Cool concepts, but it's not feasible for me to work out 3+ hours per day, or to do 2 a days. Also, elk hunting is not the same as climbing in the Himalayas. Ymmv.

I also don’t have that kind of time. I’m pretty experienced as far as programming for strength, but I really don’t know where to start as far as trying to program for cardio or endurance. I guess I’m hoping that following an established program would help with putting some intent into my training, as opposed to just sort of going for a run or hike and hoping for the best.


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[B_Reynolds_AK]

@Dave_S

Dave, here is the podcast with Scott Johnston.
You don’t need to work out 3+ hrs per day to make massive improvements in your Aerobic Threshold and Muscular Endurance.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hunt-backcountry-podcast/id1020880772?i=1000661670706

 

[P Carter]

I’ve read both books - training for the uphill athlete and training for the new alpinism.

Their plans are good, but need to be modified to suit your needs. I used the max vertical program from uphill athlete. I thought it was good, but it has to be “scaled” appropriately. In other words, the workouts are good and structured but the volume needs to be tailored to your goals. They are explicit about that - you can’t just follow an off-the-shelf plan or you’ll just get injured.

The buildings blocks are pretty simple: 8-12 week blocks of periodization; lots of volume in zone 2; one tailored muscular endurance training session per week in the last block; 2-3x per week of strength training.

If you read one of the books, get a plan, and modify the plan, it should be good. Lots of folks here follow the concepts and can help. (Or maybe “help.”)

The two authors and founders of uphill athlete, Scott Johnston and Steve house, recently split. Steve house now runs uphill athlete and Scott Johnston runs evoke endurance.

Scott Johnston was on the hunt backcountry podcast, and I think they are considering a hunting-specific plan, though I think their 24 week mountaineering plan (from UA or Evoke) would work just fine, with some tweaks.

Evoke endurance and uphill athlete both have podcasts; I think evoke is more training-based, whereas uphill athlete is more climbing based. Both are good.

 

[Dave_S]

@Dave_S

Dave, here is the podcast with Scott Johnston.
You don’t need to work out 3+ hrs per day to make massive improvements in your Aerobic Threshold and Muscular Endurance.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hunt-backcountry-podcast/id1020880772?i=1000661670706

Yep, this is the one I heard. I’ll have to give it another listen.


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[ResearchinStuff]

@Dave_S

Dave, here is the podcast with Scott Johnston.
You don’t need to work out 3+ hrs per day to make massive improvements in your Aerobic Threshold and Muscular Endurance.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hunt-backcountry-podcast/id1020880772?i=1000661670706

Agreed, you can improve a lot in way less time. However, if you follow the books programming exactly and have any baseline activity level, that's where you end up. Compound time interest on workouts in effect.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Agreed, you can improve a lot in way less time. However, if you follow the books programming exactly and have any baseline activity level, that's where you end up. Compound time interest on workouts in effect.

Sure, I can see why you say that. You can take anything to the highest level and end up at a place that a recreational athlete/hunter cannot attain to.
Myself, I train nowhere near those type of hours, except on long backcountry skiing days of which number appx 50 a year, and can still climb at a rate of 3,000 ft per hour in steep terrain when mountain running and complete solo 10 day mountain hunts & maintain effectiveness throughout.
My point being that the Uphill Athlete/Evoke methods don’t need to be taken to World Cup athlete levels to be very useful for even the most dedicated mountain hunters.

 

[bpeay4]

This year I got my feet wet experiencing with some of the principles associated with uphill athlete and specifically what was mentioned in the Exo Podcast.

Instead of doing traditional higher heart rate cardio such as running or biking I switched to zone 2 training sessions at 1 hour long. I usually just hit the stair master and sometimes rucked at a slower pace. I also did my normal strength training.

I will say that I definitely noticed a difference this fall. I could hike uphill for longer periods without needing as many breaks. Inclines with heavy loads over longer distances were less fatiguing. The final days of my hunts I still had energy to get after it.

lots of info in the zone 2 thread

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