Unknown Suppressors Updates

[Formidilosus]

Enough to use over the OG for most of your work?

No. See post #77.

 

[Salmon River Solutions]

Wait…I have a Reaper ordered for after Jan So I could /should add the OTB and/or the brake???

They don't have the exact launch date yet for the OTB HUB, but its going to be soon!

You can buy the reaper brake off our website.

Ken

 

[wind gypsy]

The Reaper is an interesting name for a can that started as "a Scythe that doesn't suck".

 

[omicron1792]

The Reaper is an interesting name for a can that started as "a Scythe that doesn't suck".

Does the scythe suck? Or just have a chance to call the reaper to see you when it explodes?

 

[sndmn11]

They don't have the exact launch date yet for the OTB HUB, but its going to be soon!

You can buy the reaper brake off our website.

Ken

I'm wildly ignorant and inexperienced with suppressors.

My 30-06 has a 3 port area419 brake on it currently, it is a 22" barrel I think, and I am used to 26" plus a brake (this is a new barrel).

What would I experience/feel/hypothetically gain with a braked suppressor like the Reaper? Does the brake have similar affect on recoil like one would on a non-suppressed/braked rifle?

 

[Salmon River Solutions]

I'm wildly ignorant and inexperienced with suppressors.

My 30-06 has a 3 port area419 brake on it currently, it is a 22" barrel I think, and I am used to 26" plus a brake (this is a new barrel).

What would I experience/feel/hypothetically gain with a braked suppressor like the Reaper? Does the brake have similar affect on recoil like one would on a non-suppressed/braked rifle?

@Unknown Suppressors Cliff or Cory can answer that one.

 

[Bluefish]

An OG35 would be sweet for my 358win build.

PS: I understand it’s unrealistic. Especially on this forum but there’s a lot of 350 legend guys out there that might want to make there 16” barrel rifle as shorts as possible and hearing safe.

Go further and one that’s sounds hearing safe for a full power 45-70 and not 20 oz.

 

[woods89]

Good question.
I think the market would support something between $1.5k to $2k.

Right now one could easily spend that much on a big name barrel, chambering work, and then the suppressor and regulatory fees.

Obviously this would need to be a quality product that would stand on its own merits when compared to a separate barrel and suppressor. But providing a streamlined product with good balance, suppression, and accuracy would absolutely have a market.

I don’t see this barrel being for the high volume practice rifle. But a 6creed barrel (or 6um or whatever) that gets 2-3 hundred shots per season for the next 5-10 years would 100% be worth it to me.

The high volume practice rifle, the class rifle, the competition rifle; these would all be better served by treating the barrel like a consumable wear item.
But there are rifles that get used only during hunting seasons. These rifles would be perfect for an integrally suppressed barrel.

This is something I've been thinking about as well. I think it might be more realistic if suppressors become non-NFA, though. Like you say, high volume/low barrel life situations wouldn't be ideal, but I think the juice might well be worth the squeeze in something like 308/6.5 CM/6 ARC.

 

[reefman77]

Interested in the OG-M ideal (but likely not realistic) would be 5-6 inch forward of muzzle, 3-4 inch OTB suppression and recoil reduction on par with long titanium hunting cans (nomad LTI XC, etc). 1.5”ish diameter, admittedly just because I prefer the appearance on thin barrels

My personal use case would be x-bolt speed in 7prc with the 24” thin sporter barrel. The nomad xc LTI gives the performance I’m looking for but a thicc can that is 8” long looks goofy and makes for a really long rifle.

Also, not sure how hard/expensive it would be to make thread adapters in m13x.75 for the x bolt. Seems like a fairly popular platform, but with really poor aftermarket support due to the proprietary nature

 

[buckleyboy]

I'm wildly ignorant and inexperienced with suppressors.

My 30-06 has a 3 port area419 brake on it currently, it is a 22" barrel I think, and I am used to 26" plus a brake (this is a new barrel).

What would I experience/feel/hypothetically gain with a braked suppressor like the Reaper? Does the brake have similar affect on recoil like one would on a non-suppressed/braked rifle?

I see this has not been answered. I am curious as well.
Having a little more experience with suppressors and minimal with brakes, I can say that any suppressor will help mitigate recoil. How much will vary, of course. I have the SRS brake for the Reaper but have not used it yet. An e-brake on a Dead Air Sandman has negligible benefits on short action rifles as far as my shoulder can tell.
As for brakes, I have shot a radial brake on a Kimber chambered in 308. It performed well. I also shot the 4-port (I think) Area 419 Hellfire on a 300WM. It made it a pussycat to shoot. I can’t describe how little recoil there was.
Of course I am not a fan of noise, so I’ll eat some recoil to tame the bang. A suppressor does both well enough for me.

 

[sndmn11]

I have the SRS brake for the Reaper but have not used it yet.

Well, go use it!

 

[Formidilosus]

What would I experience/feel/hypothetically gain with a braked suppressor like the Reaper? Does the brake have similar affect on recoil like one would on a non-suppressed/braked rifle?

No, a brake on the end of normal suppressors does not reduce gun movement like a real brake. There is an inverse relationship here: a brake works off of expanding gasses exiting the muzzle/suppressor. It requires high velocity gas to work.
So, the better the can suppresses= the less effect the brake has. The worse the can suppresses= the better the brake works.
Given the same suppresser, brakes work better on larger/higher MV velocity cartridges than they do on smaller/lower MV cartridges.


What does that mean? Well, if you suppress an 8lb 7PRC or 300win mag, it greatly slows the recoil impulse- and that is what is most noticed (recoil is slower)- other than the muzzle blast going away. But, suppressed they still move enough and recoil enough that most won’t shoot them heavily; they get pretty tiresome after 20-30 rounds or so. But, putting a brake on the suppressor reduces the recoil enough that one can double the round count at least, for the same effect. It must be noted however, that if the brake on the suppressor is actually doing anything- it isn’t hearing safe anymore. I would not shoot them without ear protection.


That is all normal suppressor with a brake added- something like the US NHS can which was designed from the ground up as a muzzle brake suppressor, with reducing gun movement as the first priority- it works way more like a true brake…. But without the concussion or blast.