Unknown suppressors OG testing

[Q_Sertorius]

Im talking about the current OG which is a 30 cal.

I'm trying to make as compact as possible 6mm arc setup and would've loved having it over the barrel.

The new OG 6.5 will be a 6.5mm and below reflex suppressor that has 4” of reflex and adds 4” to the barrel length. It goes on sale on September 12.

The Airlock 6.5 is a non-reflex 6.5mm and below suppressor that is 5” long, but only adds 4.375” to the barrel length. It has been on sale for a while, but I believe is currently sold out. I expect some to be back in stock shortly based on DannyB’s comments in the Airlock thread.

The Airlock 6 (6mm and below) and 7 (7mm and below) are coming sometime soon, but I haven't seen an offical release date.

I don’t have a dog in the fight between the two of them. I haven’t used either one. Their respective manufacturers rate them very similarly. I have them highlighted on this spreadsheet.




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[Lawnboi]

The new OG 6.5 will be a 6.5mm and below reflex suppressor that has 4” of reflex and adds 4” to the barrel length. It goes on sale on September 12.

The Airlock 6.5 is a non-reflex 6.5mm and below suppressor that is 5” long, but only adds 4.375” to the barrel length. It has been on sale for a while, but I believe is currently sold out. I expect some to be back in stock shortly based on DannyB’s comments in the Airlock thread.

The Airlock 6 (6mm and below) and 7 (7mm and below) are coming sometime soon, but I haven't seen an offical release date.

I don’t have a dog in the fight between the two of them. I haven’t used either one. Their respective manufacturers rate them very similarly. I have them highlighted on this spreadsheet.

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The numbers your gleaming from the manufacturer only matter if they shot all those cans on your list under the same conditions, with the same host, same ammo and same equipment.

And none of this weight matters. This is Rokslide, we don’t clean anything, in 2 years after 5000 rounds of creedmoor they are all going to be heavy!

 

[Q_Sertorius]

The numbers your gleaming from the manufacturer only matter if they shot all those cans on your list under the same conditions, with the same host, same ammo and same equipment.

Yes, ratings can vary some from day-to-day, but should remain the same relative to each other.

Wherever possible I have put in TBAC suppressor summit numbers instead of manufacturers’ numbers.

But since the TBAC suppressor summit only accepts manufacturers who have been in business for at least a year, neither US/UM or Airlock have been there.


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[atmat]

I really wanna see the OG6.5 vs the Airlock 6.

I do prefer a smaller diameter suppressor if at all possible, only because I run low rings.

But obviously weight and sound suppression will impact too.

What a world to live in with all these new and good choices.

 

[Timjohnson11]

IT IS A 6.5mm CAN.

At no point has anyone stated that it is a 7mm can. ALL US cans are tested or proofed beyond what they are rated for- do you actually think the OG is a 33xc can just because one was proofed through it?
It’s hard to see whether you are constantly trolling, or actually can’t grasp all of this.

The 6.5mm OG is a 6.5mm can. Yes, it is possible if everything is perfect to shoot .277 or 7mm maybe. The 30cal of is also larger than .308- it is possible to shoot a larger bore through it. Not recommended- but possible.

No @Formidilosus, trolling is what you were doing a few days back in the Airlock thread. You know, calling out the owner and calling his product a Scythe 2.0 (among other things) from behind a keyboard without ever laying hands on it? That’s trolling.

What I’m doing is simply asking if there is anything @Unknown Suppressors can do to help out their customers (OG buyers) who are just receiving their cans but would prefer the new “way better” performer/model (for their intended use case) which has since dropped out of left field. I still haven’t gotten a response from @Unknown Suppressors so I’ll take it as a “no”. No harm, no foul, doesn’t necessarily change my opinion of UM much, and I’ll still likely order the OG 6.5. It's simply a bit of a bitter pill to swallow for these buyers, and as a potential consumer and fellow Rokslider, I was simply asking UM if there is any incentive/promo they could offer for these individuals.

And to be clear once again... I don't fault UM for bringing a "way better" product to the market this quick. Do I wish their findings had been found before they sold a bunch of OG's? Sure, but ultimately I applaud them for refining their philosophy and improving their offerings. It benefits us all.

 

[Harvey_NW]

What I’m doing is simply asking if there is anything @Unknown Suppressors can do to help out their customers (OG buyers) who are just receiving their cans but would prefer the new “way better” performer/model for their intended use case that dropped immediately after their purchase out of left field. I still haven’t gotten a response from @Unknown Suppressors so I’ll take it as a “no”. No harm, no foul, doesn’t necessarily change my opinion of UM much, and I’ll still likely order the OG 6.5. Just figured I’d ask. Didn’t mean to strike such a nerve.

Maybe you should call and ask, they have a phone number. I'll just go ahead and say unless things have changed, your takeaway is wrong.

 

[Timjohnson11]

Maybe you should call and ask, they have a phone number. I'll just go ahead and say unless things have changed, your takeaway is wrong.

My takeaway? So UM does have an offer available for OG buyers who would prefer the OG 6.5 now? Share what you know

I could call but figured as it impacts quite a few Roksliders, and that @Unknown Suppressors is an active participant here on Rokslide, that it would be a quick and easy response. Obviously I was wrong.

 

[4th_point]

Sorry to get off track slightly...

Has Unknown Suppressors ever listed the equipment used to measure noise levels? I don't see it on the company website. And don't recall seeing it in the forum, but might have missed it.

With all the discussion regarding perceived loudness vs reported values, I am just curious how the measurements were taken.

Thanks

 

[Q_Sertorius]

My takeaway? So UM does have an offer available for OG buyers who would prefer the OG 6.5 now? Share what you know

Call them. If a customer ordered an OG right before the podcast and it hasn’t been transferred yet, I would be shocked if US/UM didn’t switch it over.


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[Q_Sertorius]

Sorry to get off track slightly...

Has Unknown Suppressors ever listed the equipment used to measure noise levels? I don't see it on the company website. And don't recall seeing it in the forum, but might have missed it.

With all the discussion regarding perceived loudness vs reported values, I am just curious how the measurements were taken.

Thanks

They described it on the podcast.


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[mtnbound]

I have almost 700 rounds of 223, 22CM, 308, and 6.5PRC through my OG, and it has been everything that I was looking for in a can. I recently spotted a small bear (+/- 200yds) and decided to test its reaction to the OG. I fired one round into the dirt with the muzzle pointing in its direction, and the bear raised its head for a couple of seconds before continuing to eat berries. I had also been taking shots at rocks (in a different direction) before spotting the bear. All I can say is that I am happy with my OG's performance.

 

[Tullis94]

Sorry to get off track slightly...

Has Unknown Suppressors ever listed the equipment used to measure noise levels? I don't see it on the company website. And don't recall seeing it in the forum, but might have missed it.

With all the discussion regarding perceived loudness vs reported values, I am just curious how the measurements were taken.

Thanks

I have seen it listed or heard it on one of the shoot2hunt podcasts. I can't find it right now, but they have given that information at some point. I agree it would probably be a good thing to have listed on their website.

 

[mtnbound]

I have seen it listed or heard it on one of the shoot2hunt podcasts. I can't find it right now, but they have given that information at some point. I agree it would probably be a good thing to have listed on their website.

From the website.

 

[mtnbound]

Sorry to get off track slightly...

Has Unknown Suppressors ever listed the equipment used to measure noise levels? I don't see it on the company website. And don't recall seeing it in the forum, but might have missed it.

With all the discussion regarding perceived loudness vs reported values, I am just curious how the measurements were taken.

Thanks

From website.

 

[Harvey_NW]

I have seen it listed or heard it on one of the shoot2hunt podcasts. I can't find it right now, but they have given that information at some point. I agree it would probably be a good thing to have listed on their website.

IIRC, the podcast info was just something to the effect of "we bought the best stuff you can buy without jumping the cost to $XX,XXX for industrial level equipment". The Googlenator can't find anything specific either.

From the website.View attachment 934094

They're talking about the equipment used to take the measurement and come up with 133 dB at SE.

 

[mtnbound]

IIRC, the podcast info was just something to the effect of "we bought the best stuff you can buy without jumping the cost to $XX,XXX for industrial level equipment". The Googlenator can't find anything specific either.


They're talking about the equipment used to take the measurement and come up with 133 dB at SE.

Some model of Larson Davis, I am guessing the Spartan model, as that's a firearem specific one, but I may be wrong, so don't hold me to that.

 

[mtnbound]

Sorry to get off track slightly...

Has Unknown Suppressors ever listed the equipment used to measure noise levels? I don't see it on the company website. And don't recall seeing it in the forum, but might have missed it.

With all the discussion regarding perceived loudness vs reported values, I am just curious how the measurements were taken.

Thanks

Some model of Larson Davis, I am guessing the Spartan model, as that's a firearem specific one, but I may be wrong, so don't hold me to that.

 

[Bama67]

Is the difference in tone with the OG enough to make up for how much quieter the Reaper is?
OG- 133 db
Reaper- 127 db

 

[Presswood_936]

Is the difference in tone with the OG enough to make up for how much quieter the Reaper is?
OG- 133 db
Reaper- 127 db

If there’s truly 6 db of difference between the 2 silencers absolutely not . I have an OG and the “tone” they are talking about is BS

 

[Timjohnson11]

I have almost 700 rounds of 223, 22CM, 308, and 6.5PRC through my OG, and it has been everything that I was looking for in a can. I recently spotted a small bear (+/- 200yds) and decided to test its reaction to the OG. I fired one round into the dirt with the muzzle pointing in its direction, and the bear raised its head for a couple of seconds before continuing to eat berries. I had also been taking shots at rocks (in a different direction) before spotting the bear. All I can say is that I am happy with my OG's performance.

To be fair, I don't think that is just an OG thing but I may be wrong. Thats a similar reaction to what i've witnessed across a number of different big game animals and surpressors with friends, family, and clients. Perhaps there is an argument that the "tone" of an OTB surpressor is less likely to spoke game than that of the tone from a non-OTB surpressor, but that feels like splitting hairs and impossible to objectively validate. I may be wrong but I personally wouldn't utilize that assumption as a meaningful input in my choice of a surpressor, certaintly not above absolute surpression or balance/weight attributes atleast.