Unknown Suppressors 22LR Cans

[sbaker0029]

@Macintosh from some of my research, how you clean a rimfire suppressor depends on the construction materials. Titanium seems to be the most durable and resilient to cleaners and method.
I assume the sealed titanium cans could just have one end plugged and filled with cleaner to soak for a bit then shake and drain.
I've read that some cleaning intervals can go to 1,000rds.

Here's OCL recommendations for cleaning

 

[Hurley88]

Alright, just got out with a 22LR suppressor for the first time. Picked up a Ruger Mark IV and a Tikka T1X. Was waiting for the Gnat but grabbed a B&T (or Print-X) Tiger22 because a fully titanium can that does not come apart is important to me.

Will I regret that later? Dunno, we’ll see after the first couple thousand rounds and a few cleanings. But the idea of pouring CLR in, letting it sit, shaking it, and pouring it out is a big selling point for me. If it can’t come apart…there’s nothing to work loose over time. So my thinking goes.

Anyway, I’m writing this to share the info for folks out there and bc I have an idea for the Gnat that I’m wondering if people would want.

I used a lead and jacketed (copper plated?) hollowpoint versions of three loads, plus a standard load:
40gr @ 710fps
45gr @ 970fps
40gr @ 1050fps
36gr @ 1260fps

Shot five of each over the chrono with both guns. The 16” Tikka T1X tracked right in there with what was on the box. The 4” Mark IV wasn’t nearly as far behind as I would’ve thought.

16” rifle avg velocities:
689 & 719
959 & 927
1050 & 1057
1323

The 4” pistol avg velocities:
681
807
934
1099

I didn’t shoot both versions of the loads with the pistol bc it was 90 degrees out and the suppressor heated up roughly three times faster with the pistol vs the rifle. No kidding, it was about equally as hot after five shots as with 15 shots out of the rifle.

Going into this impromptu test I really didn’t know which would be quieter out of the two. I assumed it would be the semi-auto Mark IV. But that gun has a shorter barrel, which would lower the velocity but the energy from the powder burn would likely be higher. The Tikka is not semi-auto and the powder likely fully burned by the time it exits the muzzle. After this test…I still can’t answer as to which theory is correct bc the semi-auto was definitely louder and the velocities weren’t nearly as different as I would’ve thought. But fun food for thought anyway.

(Hopefully this part isn’t too confusing) The Mark IV noise level was about like adding one step up to the Tikka. Meaning if the Tikka shot a round at 950fps, then I moved up to a round at 1050fps…the Mark IV would with the slower 950fps round (going 807fps out of the pistol) sound about like the 1050fps round out of the rifle. Maybe even a little louder. And the suppressor got hotter a lot faster as mentioned before. I personally enjoyed the Tikka much more.

As far as noise levels in general I’ll just talk about the rifle to keep things simple, rather than comparing the two back & forth. At 750ish, you only hear the trigger click. I actually took my earpro off bc I couldn’t hear anything, and still only heard the trigger click. Got sidetracked & shot a whole box at steel, rocks & various other targets, just a click every time. Quieter than an airsoft gun. At 950ish, you hear something along with the trigger click, like there’s more than just the trigger but not a lot. Stepping up to 1050fps and you’ve moved into an unmistakable gunshot sound, although still massively muted. 30-50yds away it would sound like a nail gun. Break the sound barrier and whoa what a jump in noise! I had always thought it was noticeable but this is the first time I stepped up one at a time into it; the difference is huge.

The difference between the subsonic loads is best described as Nothing/Something/Something more. Buddy asked me which I’d pick and I’d go with the 45gr @ 907fps bc it’s as quiet as you can get while still cycling actions. The 710 Quiet-22 stuff just feels like a pellet gun.
The 710fps loads won’t cycle a semi-auto, but everything above that power level ran just fine.

Hope someone out there finds this useful!

 

[Hurley88]

Now on to my Gnat idea for US, and feel free to chime in bc I’m curious if anyone out there would be interested.

The 22LR suppressor market is crowded. Way too many options. There’s one that’s less than 1” in diameter & kinda long, my Tiger22 is 1.2” in diameter, but the majority fall into the 1” diameter x 5” length dimensions.

I came away from this thinking two things: first, I can’t even feel the suppressor on the end of either gun, and they’re tiny. Second, why isn’t there 7” long 1.2” diameter titanium suppressor out there that can take one of the higher power subsonic loads down a tier?

I’d gladly tolerate a longer suppressor that weighs more, that Tiger22 is still shorter on the 16” barreled T1X than my T3X with 16” barrel & OG. What say you guys, could something like that stand out in the market?

And to US…is a longer suppressor even going to be able to knock the noise down, or have the 5” cans already dissipated all there is to dissipate? If there was a 7-8” max suppression 22LR can for rifles I’d be first in line.

 

[Formidilosus]

Now on to my Gnat idea for US, and feel free to chime in bc I’m curious if anyone out there would be interested.

The 22LR suppressor market is crowded. Way too many options. There’s one that’s less than 1” in diameter & kinda long, my Tiger22 is 1.2” in diameter, but the majority fall into the 1” diameter x 5” length dimensions.

I came away from this thinking two things: first, I can’t even feel the suppressor on the end of either gun, and they’re tiny. Second, why isn’t there 7” long 1.2” diameter titanium suppressor out there that can take one of the higher power subsonic loads down a tier?

I’d gladly tolerate a longer suppressor that weighs more, that Tiger22 is still shorter on the 16” barreled T1X than my T3X with 16” barrel & OG. What say you guys, could something like that stand out in the market?

And to US…is a longer suppressor even going to be able to knock the noise down, or have the 5” cans already dissipated all there is to dissipate? If there was a 7-8” max suppression 22LR can for rifles I’d be first in line.

Most of the noise you are hearing is the bullet breaking the sound barrier- it isn’t powder burn and muzzle pop. There is no way to get a super sonic bullet quieter than the crack of it breaking the sound barrier.

 

[Hurley88]

No I meant subsonic loads specifically. Like making something going 1050fps sound more like a 900fps load, or a 900fps load sound like a 750fps load.

 

[atmat]

No I meant subsonic loads specifically. Like making something going 1050fps sound more like a 900fps load, or a 900fps load sound like a 750fps load.

I’m not familiar with either of your suppressors mentioned.

But every 22 suppressor I’ve seen shot with subsonic rounds has been near movie quiet. Are folks really trying to squeeze a little less sound out?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

No I meant subsonic loads specifically. Like making something going 1050fps sound more like a 900fps load, or a 900fps load sound like a 750fps load.

I haven’t noticed any sound difference between subsonic loads from the same rifle, with the same suppressor.


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[Hurley88]

Well dang. You guys are answering my question, doesn’t look like there’d be a market for it.

Granted I’m splitting hairs and granted I’m getting closer & closer to transonic so I’m going to hear something more than when down there at 750fps. I came away thinking it would be awesome to hit critters at 300fps higher but still sound like nothing.

Looks like I’m alone on this one. Also seems like physics isn’t gonna let it happen. Was a fun thought though.

 

[Formidilosus]

Well dang. You guys are answering my question, doesn’t look like there’d be a market for it.

Granted I’m splitting hairs and granted I’m getting closer & closer to transonic so I’m going to hear something more than when down there at 750fps. I came away thinking it would be awesome to hit critters at 300fps higher but still sound like nothing.

Looks like I’m alone on this one. Also seems like physics isn’t gonna let it happen. Was a fun thought though.

The issue is not knowing how quiet that 22 can is. It may be a loud one, or it may be a very good one. I’ve never used it so have no comparison.

 

[Hurley88]

Gotcha. Same here, it’s the only one I’ve ever heard in person. And again, I’m splitting hairs. It is super quiet, most fun I’ve had with a 22LR in a long while.