Undecisive! Stone Glacier or Evolution?

[KHNC]

Thanks! Haven't needed to but good to know!

 

[Rossi]

Yes, I really like the frame and suspension. I attached a Kuiu 1850 for hunting, but also have the 6300 bag and old lid. The bags seem a little loud for bow hunting, but am hoping to use it this summer for regular backpacking.

 

[DaveC]

I have a Unaweep myself. Everyone keeps talking about the frame adjustability on the Evolution. Can the frame height be adjusted on the Unaweep as well? If so, how do you do it? I have looked it over and did not see how the frame can be changed.

It can, but it's not quite a tuned a rig as the Evolution frame encasement. The Unaweep is built for 26"; if you run 24" the bag will sag 2" below the frame and you just have to use the bottom straps to compress it back up. Not neat, but very functional. If you run a 28" frame (26" with 2" extensions) the bag will sit 2" above the bottom of the frame. The straps which hold the bottom of the frame in place are long enough to reach the frame in this case, and you get a little bit of an external frame vibe where you have a bit of space to lash a sleeping pad underneath.

 

[KHNC]

Thanks

 

[flyinsquirel]

Anyone have any issues with things poking you in the back with the Evolution or Unaweep? Appears that you may have to only lightly compress the load to avoid pressing it against your back. Neither have anything substantial between you and the load, especially the Unaweep.

 

[DaveC]

Anyone have any issues with things poking you in the back with the Evolution or Unaweep? Appears that you may have to only lightly compress the load to avoid pressing it against your back. Neither have anything substantial between you and the load, especially the Unaweep.

No question you have to pack them more carefully than with other packs. It can take some futzing. The bags I've made for the Paradox frame have nothing but a single layer of fabric between the load and my back. If you want a tough, 6000 cubic inch pack which carries a ton of weight well and weighs 3.3 pounds sacrifices have to be made. I've loaded my folded foam pad against my back inside the pack to smooth things out. This is more useful with a mostly empty pack, when you don't have things like a tent and sleeping bag to hold the meat in place.

 

[Jared Lampton]

Been watching this thread guys and have to chime in. I to have been eyeing the Unaweep. Dave C, can you haul meat outside the pack bag, with nothing in the bag if it was compressed down with the talon?. Hate getting blood inside a pack. Just wondering if the Talon has that capability?

http://seekoutside.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=257&sid=c4bdb9b35e27b2bc2b6e95feb943bd18

 

[Jared Lampton]

The only time I had a problem with stuff sticking me in the back was when I had the bag loaded with some bricks for testing. It's definitely a consideration when loading the bag but despite not being especially careful loading up backpacking or day gear, it was not an issue for me (minus the bricks)

 

[JDZ]

Explain this to me, because I have never seen the packs in person. But, wouldn't the Stone Glacier also have the potential problem of odd-shaped things poking your back between the carbon stays?

 

[muleman]

Explain this to me, because I have never seen the packs in person. But, wouldn't the Stone Glacier also have the potential problem of odd-shaped things poking your back between the carbon stays?

The KRuX frame is has 4 carbon fiber rods that make up the frame structure. Two of which form an X crossing in the middle and the other two run vertically on the outter edges of the frame. I have not had any issue or foresee any load poking through the frame.

Imagine it looking like this, with the center of the rods connected:
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[snowcamoman]

Muleman explained it really well. I haven't had anything pushing into my back with the SG Krux frame. I've had mine compressed tight with hard objects against the back too and never had any issues with it rubbing me.

 

[RCL]

I think they are both fine packs.
That said, I picked up a SG Solo a couple of months ago and have used it for fencing supplies, photography equipment, etc. and have had it compressed with no issues.