Well. If the sale falls through. I’m in.Dammit you’re right. I can’t use aluminum pots due to health reasons and just found a NIB Sterno inferno if someone wants to buy it from me
Well. If the sale falls through. I’m in.Dammit you’re right. I can’t use aluminum pots due to health reasons and just found a NIB Sterno inferno if someone wants to buy it from me
That makes sense. I also noticed it doesn't do much for the wind . Did you see any difference in fuel usage? I was kinda wanting to take mine off because it seems that it might just be drawing more heat away than it would be conducting to the pot.I sure did. It just makes the original burner useless now. It offered very little to no benefit of blocking wind. I figured if I am going to butcher it I might as well go all out.
I never tested it with it on so I dont know. I cant imagine it would increase fuel efficiency having it onThat makes sense. I also noticed it doesn't do much for the wind . Did you see any difference in fuel usage? I was kinda wanting to take mine off because it seems that it might just be drawing more heat away than it would be conducting to the pot.
You wouldn't think so, but some of the little things that are counterintuitive seem to make a difference for the better. For example, I did have my brs stove supports sitting between the fins on my jetboil pot and was getting about about 5.2g fuel usage for water going from 45F to 198F. Then I put a little flat ring of thin aluminum (think donut shape) between the hx fins and my stove supports in order to move the burner head a little further away from the bottom of the pot. This upped my efficiency to be 4.7g fuel usage for the same conditions and gave me a minute faster boil time. The reason for this is that having the burner too close to the pot was causing incomplete combustion of the fuel which was noticeable due to the smell it made when running it. Weird isn't it?I never tested it with it on so I dont know. I cant imagine it would increase fuel efficiency having it on
Flat cat gear has done a lot of testing around this and offers quite a few different options you can buyYou wouldn't think so, but some of the little things that are counterintuitive seem to make a difference for the better. For example, I did have my brs stove supports sitting between the fins on my jetboil pot and was getting about about 5.2g fuel usage for water going from 45F to 198F. Then I put a little flat ring of thin aluminum (think donut shape) between the hx fins and my stove supports in order to move the burner head a little further away from the bottom of the pot. This upped my efficiency to be 4.7g fuel usage for the same conditions and gave me a minute faster boil time. The reason for this is that having the burner too close to the pot was causing incomplete combustion of the fuel which was noticeable due to the smell it made when running it. Weird isn't it?
I only did one test run with it but thought the flame seemed a little off. I might have to try that and see if the flame is a little more stable.You wouldn't think so, but some of the little things that are counterintuitive seem to make a difference for the better. For example, I did have my brs stove supports sitting between the fins on my jetboil pot and was getting about about 5.2g fuel usage for water going from 45F to 198F. Then I put a little flat ring of thin aluminum (think donut shape) between the hx fins and my stove supports in order to move the burner head a little further away from the bottom of the pot. This upped my efficiency to be 4.7g fuel usage for the same conditions and gave me a minute faster boil time. The reason for this is that having the burner too close to the pot was causing incomplete combustion of the fuel which was noticeable due to the smell it made when running it. Weird isn't it?
You gonna buy the $9 dollar one or the $35 dollar one?I see fire maple has their own cozy for the their petrel pot now..
You gonna buy the $9 dollar one or the $35 dollar one?
It's showing it for $.99 as a sign up/register one time special!It way less than $9 if paying in USD ha
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It's showing it for $.99 as a sign up/register one time special!
I tested my cooking system efficiency this evening.
First, here's some weights with various parts. I found a plastic Tupperware lid in my kitchen that fits pretty well... About 6.5g!
The whole deal. A new olicamp 100g canister inside, with a large box and the brs stove in the bag. 13.9oz. without the rubber band, a small size bic, and no stove bag, I'd probably save a half ounce and would be around 13.4oz. not bad considering the jetboil flash I was using was over 14oz for just tue pot and stove whose igniter didn't work and wasn't replaceable due to being melted into the plastic stove housing.
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I cut it down to hold 2 cups most of the time, but could fit 2.5 or so in there if needed.
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Pot, burner, and lighter: 6.73oz. it might be 6.5oz or less with a small bic. That's not too far off a sterno stove!
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Now for the testing.
For test 1, I put cold water in up to the 2cup line and put it, the fuel and stove in the fridge for a few hours. I didn't think to measure the temp on the first test, but I'm fairly certain the water temp was around 38ish. I had the burner on very low. A setting I figured would get it to boil but might take awhile.
For test 2, I cooled off the pot, filled cold water to 2 cup line, put in a couple ice cubes and stirred to melt, then made sure the water was at 2 cups. 41F. Put it and the fuel and stove in the fridge for a couple hours. Starting temp was 39F. I put the burner on a setting a bit below max output.
These tests were done in my kitchen, at 4400ft asl.
Test 1: 9.5 min boil time, 5.4g fuel consumed
Test 2: 4.5 min boil time, 6g fuel consumed
Looking at the numbers, either my system is really inefficient compared to a couple others using the brs and sterno pot, or I'm skewing the number with putting everything in the fridge for a couple of hours and having it all cold. I can't fathom a test with this system where everything is cold and I get a 3.5-4min boil time with only 3.5-4g fuel consumed.
So....
Is it the pot?
Is it the stove distance from bottom of pot?
Or is it the temperature of the system when testing?
How do I make this more efficient?
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Setup | Start temp (F) | water weight (g) | fuel usage (g) | total time | notes |
Flash stove | 45 | 484 | 4.8 | 4:30 | |
Brs, no ring | 45 | 484 | 5.2 | 7:25 | |
Brs, w/ ring | 43 | ~484 | 4.7 | 7:00 | measured 2 cups but didn't weigh |
Brs, w/ ring | 45 | 484 | 4.7 | 6:20 | |
Brs, w/ ring, no cozy | 45 | 484 | 4.9 | 6:15 | |
Brs w/ ring | 72 | 484 | 4.1 | 5:20 | |
Brs w/ ring | 45 | ~484 | 5.6 | 3:35 | 2 cups didn't weigh. Fast heat |
$35 one comes with the potYou gonna buy the $9 dollar one or the $35 dollar one?
MessagedI’ll sell the Sterno inferno for $50 TYD if anyone is interested, just pm me
I will try to find a decent lid that seals tight and probably ditch the handle, but as is it was well worth sub $50 to shave almost 1/2lb and a little overall volume on this system!
I called Jetboil to complain about the lid on my MicroMo, and they sent me a new Zip lid. It fits the MicroMo MUCH better and also fits the FM Petrel nicely as well. It weighs 0.7oz.
For $5.95 I just ordered one to try out, I do like those style lids. Thanks for the heads up!I called Jetboil to complain about the lid on my MicroMo, and they sent me a new Zip lid. It fits the MicroMo MUCH better and also fits the FM Petrel nicely as well. It weighs 0.7oz.