Trophy bull and a trespass charge

In some states I think the public would get something like a prescriptive easement and be allowed to access it.
Most states you would for private land. You could for public if you sued as party in interest taxpayer and can find where landlocked parcel was cut from and sold out of the now dominant blocking parcel of land.
 
No one is saying the landowners own the wildlife. The only comments I saw were saying that he was managing access as if he owned the wildlife, which is a very different thing.

And the notion that you can have private-locked public land is crazy.
State attorneys are too lazy to sue for access.
 
Furthermore, “land locked” public land should simply not exist. If taxpayers are helping fund that land, they ought to have access. Period.
Don't punish the ranchers for scenarios they didn't create. I agree that landlocked public lands shouldn't exist. That was a monumental mistake, made by self-dealing politicians back in the day, IMO.

The proper way to deal with it is to do land-swaps until government entities no long own any property that is landlocked. Eliminate landlocked parcels and eliminate corner-crossing at the same time.
 
Don't punish the ranchers for scenarios they didn't create. I agree that landlocked public lands shouldn't exist. That was a monumental mistake, made by self-dealing politicians back in the day, IMO.

The proper way to deal with it is to do land-swaps until government entities no long own any property that is landlocked. Eliminate landlocked parcels and eliminate corner-crossing at the same time.
Or the attorney general for the state or federal district grow some balls???
 
The proper way to deal with it is to do land-swaps until government entities no long own any property that is landlocked. Eliminate landlocked parcels and eliminate corner-crossing at the same time.
From what I’ve seen here in Colorado and Montana, the public usually gets the shaft on a land swap deal. In fact, there’s been numerous land swaps that have occurred in which the private land owner basically extorted the state or federal government into swapping.
 
I see this thread going well.....


I assume this was BLM land?

Not National Forest?
State land which looks largely to be managed for oil/gas and ranching revenue so the notion that its paid for by tax payers might not have a ton of merit. From what I gather, the green below is the ranch in question. you can see the various state sections. Far from what i'd consider key land locked public parcels as far as the west goes as a whole.

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While private land owners dont own the wildlife, i do have sympathy for folks who manage their land for wildlife who are impacted by trespassers and poachers. They have limited recourse. No idea on the case with this particular landowner but if I were a rancher who gave up a bunch of feed, supported habitat, provided sanctuary, at a very real cost to maintain solid wildlife populations and good hunting - i'd want some damn teeth to punish people who trespassed and killed a 370 type bull as well.

If it was just a free for all for hunters on the place, that bull likely wouldn't have existed as he did.
 
While private land owners dont own the wildlife, i do have sympathy for folks who manage their land for wildlife who are impacted by trespassers and poachers. They have limited recourse. No idea on the case with this particular landowner but if I were a rancher who gave up a bunch of feed, supported habitat, provided sanctuary, at a very real cost to maintain solid wildlife populations and good hunting - i'd want some damn teeth to punish people who trespassed and killed a 370 type bull as well.

If it was just a free for all for hunters on the place, that bull likely wouldn't have existed as he did.
I hear you, and agree with almost everything you said… However, there’s a lot of ranchers who are compensated by the state for loss of hay/crops, yet they won’t allow the public on their property to hunt the animals that have become a resident herd. And, if any hunting is allowed, it’s for cows only and any bulls are not permitted to be taken. A lot of ranches will claim they don’t want those herds on their property, but what they really want is a payout from the state, and to keep the bulls/bucks for themselves or to lease hunting rights for those bucks/bulls.
 
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