Travel Pack/Day Pack Recommendations

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Looking to retire the Jansport and pick up a day pack for travel that can also double as a coyote/deer hunting day pack for days I don't want to carry my SG Solo 3600.

I've narrowed it down (I think) to the SG Avail, Kifaru Shape Charge, and Kuiu Ranger 2200.

I like the SG for the simple fact that it can easily serve double duty on my Xcurve frame, but the lack of water bottle pouches bothers me since I'd be toting water/etc for 2 people when traveling. Also not sure how I feel about all the extra straps dangling around for travel around town etc when on vacation.

Looking for feedback from folks that have personal experience with these packs (or recommendations) for similar uses.
 
I've got an Avail, it's a nice daypack, it fills up real quick though. The extra straps and whatnot, really don't get in the way and you can cinch it down tight so there isn't any slop in the pack. I've also had 40lbs in it for training hikes and it was comfortable.

I did frankenstein mine to my K4 frame as I thought it would be a good option, ultimately I took it off, but it can be done.

Based on the three you've narrowed it down to (for now), I would go with the Avail personally. I say that because I have experience with the Avail, it's made in the USA, also I don't know how comfortable the Shape Charge would be with the thinner straps. However I do like the customization options the shape charge has, as well as you can add the water bottle pockets on the belt or use the ones on the sides.
 
For Day trips are you thinking about packing meat out as well or would a frame stay at the truck and you would snag it after the first run?
Just curious - I've been looking for a good option of a bag to just strap to my Frame.
 
I love my Avail but tend to carry my Kuiu Divide 1500 way more.
I looked at the divide as well but wondering if the divide pouch would eat up into the internal capacity of the bag. Also read that Kuiu straps tend to rub against your neck so have some concerns there as well


For Day trips are you thinking about packing meat out as well or would a frame stay at the truck and you would snag it after the first run?
Just curious - I've been looking for a good option of a bag to just strap to my Frame.
I'd have the solo in the truck for hauling out meat if it takes more than 1 trip. It would primarily be for hauling jackets/water/snacks/tripod etc for hunting trips
 
I've got an Avail, it's a nice daypack, it fills up real quick though. The extra straps and whatnot, really don't get in the way and you can cinch it down tight so there isn't any slop in the pack. I've also had 40lbs in it for training hikes and it was comfortable.

I did frankenstein mine to my K4 frame as I thought it would be a good option, ultimately I took it off, but it can be done.

Based on the three you've narrowed it down to (for now), I would go with the Avail personally. I say that because I have experience with the Avail, it's made in the USA, also I don't know how comfortable the Shape Charge would be with the thinner straps. However I do like the customization options the shape charge has, as well as you can add the water bottle pockets on the belt or use the ones on the sides.
The Kifaru is also made in the USA and Berry compliant, which is another reason I like both of these options.

I haven't tried on either (Scheels is like 3-4 hours from me) but I know my SG Solo fits me great, which is another draw to the Avail. The straps do look pretty thin on the Shape Charge, but I haven't read any complaints that i recall on Kifaru fit in general, just that they tend to be a little heavy and overbuilt.

Editing to add - I do like the ability to cinch the pack down, but with my Solo I notice that those straps end up dangling quite a bit, which would get obnoxious getting in and out of cars/planes etc for traveling. The Avail seems like it could end up being similar in that regard.
 
I'll second the kuiu divide 1500. It's my go to for travel and day hikes.
I haven't had any issues with the straps rubbing my neck.
Depending on the shape and size of what you're stuffing into the divide, it could push into interior space but hasn't been a problem for me.
 
I'll second the kuiu divide 1500. It's my go to for travel and day hikes.
I haven't had any issues with the straps rubbing my neck.
Depending on the shape and size of what you're stuffing into the divide, it could push into interior space but hasn't been a problem for me.
The immediate use aside from coyote hunts would be an upcoming trip to Hawaii, so I was planning on being able to stuff rain jackets/sunscreen/snacks etc for 2, so I was eyeballing the Divide 2000

I do like the dedicated tripod pocket on the Divide since 99% of my coyote hunting is thermal hunting at night. We tend to pack in a mile or two
 
I’ve been using an avail for a travel/daybag for many years. It fits well on airplanes, it holds a good amount. It handles weight very well. Extremely comfortable. It is minimalist in pockets (which I love because I use organizers. It’s just been a real solid bag that I haven’t felt the need to change which, now that I think about it, is a testimate to how well it works.
 
I’ve been using an avail for a travel/daybag for many years. It fits well on airplanes, it holds a good amount. It handles weight very well. Extremely comfortable. It is minimalist in pockets (which I love because I use organizers. It’s just been a real solid bag that I haven’t felt the need to change which, now that I think about it, is a testimate to how well it works.
How are the side pockets for holding nalgenes? That is probably my biggest hangup. I spoke with them yesterday and they mentioned it could hold the bottom of the nalgene and then have the compression strap hold the top. That pouch just seems small
 
How are the side pockets for holding nalgenes? That is probably my biggest hangup. I spoke with them yesterday and they mentioned it could hold the bottom of the nalgene and then have the compression strap hold the top. That pouch just seems small
I just tried it for the fun of it. I don’t use them that way but it seems like they are made for it. I usually keep my water inside in smart bottles but if I were a Nalgene guy they fit great as you described with the straps tight.

I just realized there is only one side that has the small pocket. I wish both sides had it.
 
The immediate use aside from coyote hunts would be an upcoming trip to Hawaii, so I was planning on being able to stuff rain jackets/sunscreen/snacks etc for 2, so I was eyeballing the Divide 2000

I do like the dedicated tripod pocket on the Divide since 99% of my coyote hunting is thermal hunting at night. We tend to pack in a mile or two

You can definitely fit all that for two in the 1500.

I'll pack my usual day stuff, two changes of clothes, and toiletries for carry-on use.
I usually carry everything for me and my wife on day hikes. Two rain jackets, usually a fleece or hoodie, snacks, first aid kit, Nalgene and/or grayl, and usually binoculars.

The center pocket has a zipper in the bottom for tripod or close it and use it as stuff section. Very handy.
 
I just tried it for the fun of it. I don’t use them that way but it seems like they are made for it. I usually keep my water inside in smart bottles but if I were a Nalgene guy they fit great as you described with the straps tight.

I just realized there is only one side that has the small pocket. I wish both sides had it.
It never dawned on me the pockets on the inside could hold a Nalgene, I have used it for my kids' water bottles, but those are slimmer bottles.

I just tried it and I have pockets on both sides and both hold a Nalgene. The more I know...
 
I have been tempted to get an avail, the lack of a larger water bottle pocket on the outside has deterred me to this point.
I asked the question on another thread if anyone had added their own pocket to an Avail and some members provided great feedback.
I've had the shape charge for a few years, for essentially the same purposes you are asking about.
As mentioned, it is burly and heavier than a more simplistic style day pack. But, the added organization is a nice touch for travel or hiking- I use it for quick overnight trips etc all the time.
Another reason that I ended up with the shape charge is that you can put it on your frame with a guide lid kit- helped me justify it a bit more to be able to use it as a day pack and maintain ability to pack some weight out. I have yet to try it out on my frame, so I cannot weigh in on that.
Also, I have not found the shoulder straps to be uncomfortable.
 
One of my favorites if you can find one is the Kifaru Spikecamp Gen 2 and the Quandary. Spikecamp was perfect for flying and day hikes etc.... The Avail is a solid choice too
 
Funny, I actually purchased all 3 of those packs in my quest for the perfect day pack (and I live in Hawaii).

I purchased the Shape Charge first. After all my research I thought it would be the perfect one based on features and feedback from others. My friend has a Door Gunner that I love, but since they don't make them anymore that wasn't an option. Unfortunately, I hated the Shape Charge the minute it arrived. For me, the frame was super uncomfortable. It was way overbuilt, bulky, and heavy. It really wasn't going to work for me here. I ended up sending it back, losing over $100 in shipping charges that left me with a pretty sour taste in my mouth. Oh well, paradise tax.

I bought the SG Avail 2200 next. I liked it well enough, but the lack of water bottle pockets, placement of the hydration port, arrangement of the many many straps, the belt configuration, tendency to barrel when loaded full, and more, left me less than impressed. Let me come back to this in a moment.

I bought the Kuiu Ranger 2200 on a pretty good sale. Figured I'd give it a try. I had the Venture 1800 before, which I really liked for its layout and materials, but the frame was uncomfortable. I bent the aluminum stays in the Venture to make it much better, but a big problem I have with Kuiu day packs is that the frame and pack extend several inches below the hip belt causing the pack to ride hard into the top of my butt. I hate that. Maybe some people like that? Idk, ymmv. The Ranger has a very similar layout and materials to the Venture but a much more comfortable frame. I like it except that it still suffers from that extension below the hip belt. I'll generally only use it when I'm wearing a thick coat which keeps the frame from riding on top of my butt. I may do some modifications to the bottom to make it more comfortable for me, because it otherwise is a pretty decent pack for my uses here in Hawaii.

After trying out the Ranger, I decided to give the Avail another go. With a bunch of modifications, I'm starting to like it more. First, I swapped out the hip belt. I'm using the belt from a 5.11 tactical skyweight 24l pack. For hipbelt pockets I pulled my exo mtn gear pockets off my K4 that I only use for longer hunts. I also cut a small rectangle from a thick yoga mat to beef up the lumbar pad. It's just wedged in there with the belt. I pulled out the frame and added a curved aluminum bar to the frame sheet at the same position as the top compression straps to help keep it from barreling. That helped a lot. I opened up the top seam to allow my water bladder hose to pass out the top so it could go over my right shoulder and not snag bushes or my bow string. I pulled a bunch of the buckles and straps off and only have the ones I need. I may actually cut some more straps and loops off that are really just extra tangle spots (for my use case, specifically. Others may have use for these in different environments). At this point, I like this pack fairly well. I've used it for travel several times. I got the Access bag, and when I get on the plane I put the stuff I want in my seat in the Access bag. When I get to my seat, the main pack goes up above and I put the Access bag under the seat in front of me. Water, headphones, charger, book, snacks. Really all I need.

I took the Avail on an archery deer hunt to Lāna'i recently. Shot a doe with my longbow and butchered it out and put the roughly 20lbs of meat in the bag and walked very comfortably the mile back uphill to the truck. I think for now I'm happy with this pack in general, unless a Door Gunner shows up somewhere. I've done some training hikes recently with 15-20 lbs in the pack and it carries nicely. Sure wish it had stretch pockets on the outside though.

I'm picky when it comes to packs, if you couldn't tell. Really just comes down to comfort for me, I'm happy with a wide variety of features. Hope these thoughts help.
 
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