TMK equivalent for muzzle loader

[Skinnyguts]

I’ve been using Bloodline bullets. They have been very effective terminally for short to medium/long range. 200 yards. My issue is they are not designed for longer range/ slower velocity. Being allowed to use scopes in WA now, I’ve been trying to find an equivalent to the TMK for muzzleloader. Any suggestions for a good killing bullet with higher bc?
@Formidilosus

 

[Formidilosus]

I’ve been using Bloodline bullets. They have been very effective terminally for short to medium/long range. 200 yards. My issue is they are not designed for longer range/ slower velocity. Being allowed to use scopes in WA now, I’ve been trying to find an equivalent to the TMK for muzzleloader. Any suggestions for a good killing bullet with higher bc?
@Formidilosus

Of what I’ve seen, the Hornady ELD-X.

 

[PathFinder]

Arrowhead XLD. They have a massive meplat under the tip and a very thin jacket. The ones I've shot have upset very quickly and left massive wound channels.

 

[ElDiablito]

Parker makes a fantastic cup/core bullet. I really like the 300 and 327 gr Black Max.

Parker Black Max

Designed for maximum expansion and energy transfer, this bullet is perfect for medium to large thin-skinned game such as deer, elk & sheep. For use in sabot or bullet to bore applications. *Sabots Not Included

parkerproductionsinc.com

 

[Pickettpuncher]

Arrowhead XLD. They have a massive meplat under the tip and a very thin jacket. The ones I've shot have upset very quickly and left massive wound channels.

I’d add Pittman, fury bullets, and Parker as well

 

[jonnyviceroy]

+1 for Pittman. The most insane wound channels I’ve ever seen. From 80yds out to 600 yds (back when they allowed scopes here in Utah) on deer and elk.

 

[FB Trout]

Arrowhead XLD. They have a massive meplat under the tip and a very thin jacket. The ones I've shot have upset very quickly and left massive wound channels.

This. These bullets behave much like a TMK. I’ve shot a big bull and multiple mule deer have been killed with this bullet between my sons and me. All very quick deaths and very destructive wound channels.

 

[swavescatter]

Parker makes a fantastic cup/core bullet. I really like the 300 and 327 gr Black Max.

Parker Black Max

Designed for maximum expansion and energy transfer, this bullet is perfect for medium to large thin-skinned game such as deer, elk & sheep. For use in sabot or bullet to bore applications. *Sabots Not Included

parkerproductionsinc.com

With a single data point these worked excellent for me. Bang flop. 45 cal.

 

[ElDiablito]

With a single data point these worked excellent for me. Bang flop. 45 cal.

Same here. A big bull - dead in 10 steps and a couple big mule deer bucks - very explosive - quick kills. No exits.

 

[rharbaugh]

Whats the best bullet/sabot combo to shoot out of a CVA Accura?
What muzzle brake do you guys like that works with sabots?

 

[bbrown]

I’m using the Muzzle-loaders.com .45 brake on my MRX. Tames the recoil and it’s still easy to load using the Cedar Mountain speed loader. So far the ELD-X bullets are shooting best for me but a bit light on the resistance when loading.

Speaking of the Cedar Mountain speed loaders - they make loading and quick follow-up shots so much faster and easier. Well worth the money to have one in your kit

 

[rharbaugh]

I’m using the Muzzle-loaders.com .45 brake on my MRX. Tames the recoil and it’s still easy to load using the Cedar Mountain speed loader. So far the ELD-X bullets are shooting best for me but a bit light on the resistance when loading.

Speaking of the Cedar Mountain speed loaders - they make loading and quick follow-up shots so much faster and easier. Well worth the money to have one in your kit

I also have that muzzle brake. I thought SRS actually makes them for M-L.com, could be wrong. I really like it. Works great with Thor and the eldx bullets. Unfortunately not rated for sabots.

Those speed loaders look slick. Way better than carrying a separate funnel. I dropped my funnel from a tree stand a few years back and lost it. Next one got painted orange, a hole drilled in the top, and a tether looped through it. Haven’t lost it since but those speed loaders are going to make it obsolete

 

[yotebuster17]

With a single data point these worked excellent for me. Bang flop. 45 cal.

I shot a desert muley with a September neck right below the white patch with these at 120 yards and 2550 fps and it didn’t exit! Made me a little nervous. My buddies daughter shot a bull at 380 yards with them later that year quartering toward them and it didn’t make it through the shoulder. They caught up with him a half day later, but I would shoot arrowheads instead personally unless it’s deer or antelope at long range. I won’t be using them for elk anymore.

 

[bbrown]

I also have that muzzle brake. I thought SRS actually makes them for M-L.com, could be wrong. I really like it. Works great with Thor and the eldx bullets. Unfortunately not rated for sabots.

Those speed loaders look slick. Way better than carrying a separate funnel. I dropped my funnel from a tree stand a few years back and lost it. Next one got painted orange, a hole drilled in the top, and a tether looped through it. Haven’t lost it since but those speed loaders are going to make it obsolete

Gotcha - sorry I assumed that brake would work with a sabot since they work with the skirt on the eldxs but didn’t notice they won’t work with with sabots.

 

[ElDiablito]

Gotcha - sorry I assumed that brake would work with a sabot since they work with the skirt on the eldxs but didn’t notice they won’t work with with sabots.

Generally sabots will work in a radial brake but are not recommended in most side port brakes (unless they’re way over-bored). The petals start to open immediately and can catch in the ports and cause a brake strike.

 

[rharbaugh]

Generally sabots will work in a radial brake but are not recommended in most side port brakes (unless they’re way over-bored). The petals start to open immediately and can catch in the ports and cause a brake strike.

Not an expert on brakes, but are all radial brakes pretty close to the same? Not that there are a lot of choices for muzzleloaders. Was thinking of trying this one with some sabots this year.

https://muzzle-loaders.com/collections/muzzleloader-muzzle-brakes/products/anarchy-outdoors-traditions-full-port-muzzle-brake-50-caliber

 

[ElDiablito]

Not an expert on brakes, but are all radial brakes pretty close to the same? Not that there are a lot of choices for muzzleloaders. Was thinking of trying this one with some sabots this year.

https://muzzle-loaders.com/collections/muzzleloader-muzzle-brakes/products/anarchy-outdoors-traditions-full-port-muzzle-brake-50-caliber

I think many radials are fairly similar. I’d look at an Arrowhead or Woodman Arms brake. You will need a load-through funnel with a brake, IMO. Dropping a sabot or bullet down a brake and hoping for the best isn’t ideal.

Shop - Arrowhead Rifles

arrowheadrifles.com

Brakes | Woodman Arms Inc.

www.woodmanarms.com

 

[rharbaugh]

Dropping a sabot or bullet down a brake and hoping for the best isn’t ideal.

You mean in terms of bullet alignment with the bore?