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And better corrosion resistance for the titanium if it's being compared to blued steel.Only benefits of titanium is less weight.
I think Seekins uses aluminum in the havak element action.And better corrosion resistance for the titanium if it's being compared to blued steel.
I wonder if anyone's making magnesium or the lithium-aluminum alloy they make AR parts from.
Any downsides?Only benefits of titanium is less weight.
I haven't seen a steel action as light as the Pierce Titanium.There are steel actions just as light as titanium ones, there's really no benefit anymore.
Ya, and it weighs more than a lot of steel ones. Not sure how they managed to do that.Bat also has an Aluminum action.
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My Pierce ti action was 23.5 oz with rail and lug. My Vampire is 24.7 oz.I haven't seen a steel action as light as the Pierce Titanium.
Ya, and it weighs more than a lot of steel ones. Not sure how they managed to do that.
Titanium is more brittle than steel and stainless, however, I have never heard that negatively impacting an action. So I would consider it a relative weakness.Any downsides?
I mean it really just means Bat doesn't care about weight in the design. To have an aluminum piece weigh more let along anywhere near a Titanium piece is insane. There's strength considerations, but Aluminum is 40% lighter than titanium. And some of the new alloys are even lighter.My Pierce ti action was 23.5 oz with rail and lug. My Vampire is 24.7 oz.
Maybe, but for 1 oz I sure like the feel of that Bat over that Pierce.I mean it really just means Bat doesn't care about weight in the design. To have an aluminum piece weigh more let along anywhere near a Titanium piece is insane. There's strength considerations, but Aluminum is 40% lighter than titanium. And some of the new alloys are even lighter.
Based on what data? That is not a correct statement. With no knowledge of the specific alloy or heat treatment used, there is no basis for comparison. What physical properties constitute brittle and under what conditions?Titanium is more brittle than steel and stainless, however, I have never heard that negatively impacting an action. So I would consider it a relative weakness.
Science very often uses generalizations and I was simply generalizing the available scientific data you can easily google. But hey, many people don't like the truth. But also take notice of that last sentence, which is pretty telling.Based on what data? That is not a correct statement. With no knowledge of the specific alloy or heat treatment used, there is no basis for comparison. What physical properties constitute brittle and under what conditions?
That is just too broad a statement with nothing to qualify it.
Jeremy
With no knowledge of the heat treatment or alloy used for each, your initial post and this one are both misleading at best. Knife blades don't have the same properties as gun barrels, but their both steel.Science very often uses generalizations and I was simply generalizing the available scientific data you can easily google. But hey, many people don't like the truth. But also take notice of that last sentence, which is pretty telling.
You clearly misunderstand the scientific term "generalization".With no knowledge of the heat treatment or alloy used for each, your initial post and this one are both misleading at best. Knife blades don't have the same properties as gun barrels, but their both steel.
Steel could be more brittle, or titanium could be more brittle. Temperature also matters since steel, carbon and stainless, go through a ductile to brittle transition at low temp (the temp depends on alloy). Titanium does not.
It's a misleading statement about the material. However, this is not the place to debate the merits of each.
Jeremy