Tipping a fishing guide

You've never priced out a trip with all the operating expenses while trying to stay competative for a luxury service have you.

Especially when competitors can almost give trips away for whatever reason or another, and, they aren't guiding 7 days a week for 48 weeks out of the year either...
Free market economy
 
$600 a day is typical on my local river. $30 for the shuttle, $35 for gas, $30-$40 for lunch stuff, some # of flies etc…. So $500 ish give or take a few. Meet at 8am- off the water at 4. 1 hour drive each way, clean up, re-boot etc.. 10 + hours so $50 an hour to out a number on it. And that’s if it’s my own trip. Take $50- $100 off the total if I’m working for one of the shops in town. Tip on top of it. I love the work and the people (mostly). It takes time to build a base of quality, returning clients. Thank god my wife has a great job! 😁
 
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What point are you trying to make? Just say what you want rather than playing the “you’ve never” game…..

If you’ve got some inside information I’m unaware of that may influence the amount I’m going to tip then I’m all ears.

Just that guides aren't rolling in cash. Outfitters/business owners maybe. Guides, not so much.

You said you didn't believe the paycheck to paycheck comment....
 
Okay. And...?
The profit/loss of the business is not the responsibility of the consumer. If the business improperly prices its product (too low to cover expenses with reasonable profit margins), don’t expect me to “bail them out” via social pressure.
 
The profit/loss of the business is not the responsibility of the consumer.

Never said it was. A business charges what they do to earn a profit. They pay employees based on their business plan and model.

There are inputs (costs) that WILL be passed onto the customer, what those are are what they are and to stay in business they have to be competitive. Staying competitive keeps them active in commerce and employees paid.

Not all businesses can operate the same.
 
So, we agree that tipping is optional and at the discretion of the consumer rather than an expectation.
 
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