Timberline vs Attack

[Davebuech]

This year I made a move to the Sitka Mountain pants and I really like the fit and layout of pockets. The knee pads are also a nice touch and saved a lot of wear and tear on my old knees this archery season. This has lead me to thinking of trying the Timberline's but I already have a pair of Attacks used for later season hunts. Is the Timberline much different from the Attacks or should I just stay with the Attacks and save some coin?

 

[Kotaman]

Your Mountain pants are more similar to the Attacks. The Timberlines are basically the same pant as the mountain pant with the addition of a waterproof seat and knees.

 

[TravKatQ]

2nd that on the mountain pant being more compared to the attack. The 2 are similar in weight and warmth. I have both and like the fit better of my mountain pants. Next up on my wish list is the timberlines


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[Mjm316]

I had a pair of the timberlines and went to the attacks this year. Attacks are lighter imo. Timberlines were nice with the waterproof knees and butt, but were just too hot for me plus I had issues with them not drying out very fast. Attacks have been decent so far.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I have both and have alternated between them this season based on what was clean. The attacks are slimmer fitting but stretch well and I would say have an edge in comfort. They are lighter as well and do better in warmer weather. I have used the timberlines in what cold weather we have had in the northeast and would preference them in cooler temps for the waterproof knees and butt as well as Better ability to layer. I put Long underwear and a puffy pant under them last year without an issue.

Timberlines are more $$$ but they have more going on in the feature department for the added costs. Only gripe about the two is they are both showing signs of pilling in between the thighs and where my pack belt have rubbed. No performance issue but makes me wonder how long they will last.

Overall, I think they are both good. I do like having some sort of knee pad. If kuiu put a DWR on the Alpines and sold them in solid I think that would be my “one pant to rule them all”.

 

[Back Country Hunter 2]

The Timberline's are my go to mid to late season pant. IMO the attacks are more of an early to mid season pant. Of course you could layer up though. Those two pants aren't very similar. The attacks weigh significantly less and are not windproof, where as the timberlines are heavier and windproof.

 

[doverpack12]

The Timberline's are my go to mid to late season pant. IMO the attacks are more of an early to mid season pant. Of course you could layer up though. Those two pants aren't very similar. The attacks weigh significantly less and are not windproof, where as the timberlines are heavier and windproof.

Are you sure the timberline pants are windproof? Pretty sure they do not have a wind barrier in them.

My preferance between Attack and 2016 Mountain pants is by far the attacks. So much that I stopped wearing the mountain pants. I just feel like the attacks can cover a much wider range of temperature conditions with the hip vents compared to the mountain pants which did not breath very well at all for me. I agree above with the fit being slightly different between the two. I do like that sitka offers one inch waist increments instead of even waist sizes only. I wore the attacks from almost 90 this year down into the 20's with lots of snow and wind and was comfortable enough. The extreme ends of my temperature range start to get a little iffy on performance but I would and have pushed the attacks much colder with a thicker base layer. The Mountain pants were flat miserable anywhere close to 80 or warmer. I didn't wear them quite as cold probably 35-36 and rain and they were ok in that.

 

[Back Country Hunter 2]

Are you sure the timberline pants are windproof? Pretty sure they do not have a wind barrier in them.

You are correct they do not have a windproof material in them. I've had good experience with them being very wind resistant.

 

[Where's Bruce?]

For moderate temps (mid 70s and less) Timberlines rule. My favorite pants.

 

[Stwrt9]

I have all 3 that have been discussed(Mountain, Timberline, Attack). As others have stated the Mountain and the Attack are a bit closer in resemblance, but not entirely. the Mountain Pants are the lightest of the 3, they do have knee pads which are removable which is a plus, but they don't have the hip vents for dumping heat in hot temps. Between the Mountain and the Attacks i prefer the Attacks as they seem to be the most versatile in regards to the temps you can cover in them. The Attacks for me are the perfect balance of what i'm looking for out of a hunting pant. Now the Timberlines however are a completely different animal. They are certainly not a hot weather pant but can get you though just about any season you need them to. The waterproof butt and knee areas are essential and top that off with removable knee pads gives it a ton of versatility. All 3 pants have a nice stretchy DWR fabric that dries fairly quickly. If i had to chose i would primarily run the Attacks and Timberlines and scratch the Mountain pant as i could easily get by without it. In a perfect world someone would put hip vents in the Timberlines and never look back as it would be king of all hunting pants!

Josh

 

[Netherman]

I have all 3 that have been discussed(Mountain, Timberline, Attack). As others have stated the Mountain and the Attack are a bit closer in resemblance, but not entirely. the Mountain Pants are the lightest of the 3, they do have knee pads which are removable which is a plus, but they don't have the hip vents for dumping heat in hot temps. Between the Mountain and the Attacks i prefer the Attacks as they seem to be the most versatile in regards to the temps you can cover in them. The Attacks for me are the perfect balance of what i'm looking for out of a hunting pant. Now the Timberlines however are a completely different animal. They are certainly not a hot weather pant but can get you though just about any season you need them to. The waterproof butt and knee areas are essential and top that off with removable knee pads gives it a ton of versatility. All 3 pants have a nice stretchy DWR fabric that dries fairly quickly. If i had to chose i would primarily run the Attacks and Timberlines and scratch the Mountain pant as i could easily get by without it. In a perfect world someone would put hip vents in the Timberlines and never look back as it would be king of all hunting pants!

Josh

+1 on adding hip vents. I was kind of surprised they didn't have them for the $$$

Nick

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[thinhorn_AK]

+1 on adding hip vents. I was kind of surprised they didn't have them for the $$$

Nick

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True, sitka builds in all sorts of extra features, strange they don't do hip vents.

 

[aron]

Are the timberlines warm enough for glassing on a late season hunt? I have attacks and love them for mid season but looking for something warmer.

 

[bcopley1116]

I have the attacks and the timberlines pants. I have wore the timberlines for a month or so during bow season and during CO 3rd rifle. The timberlines are warmer and seem more durable that the attack pants. I also like the fit of the timberlines better. I only wear my attack pants for earlier season now since they have the hip vents. Overall I prefer the timberlines over the attack pants because they are warm enough to wear with a baselayer during late season, but I can also wear them during early and midseason.

 

[Poser]

I have the attacks and Timberlines as well. I'd be more prone to wear the attacks during early season, but I prefer Timberlines, especially for rugged terrain.


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[Stwrt9]

Are the timberlines warm enough for glassing on a late season hunt? I have attacks and love them for mid season but looking for something warmer.

when we say the timberlines are warmer than the Attacks just to be clear they are only slightly warmer as the material is similar. The timberline Pants are not insulated by any means if that is what your looking for. If you are looking for something to glass in try adding something like the Uncompahgre pants to slip on while glassing to stay warm.

Josh

 

[Where's Bruce?]

Are the timberlines warm enough for glassing on a late season hunt? I have attacks and love them for mid season but looking for something warmer.

That depends on elevation, wind and temp but to 50* you'll be fine, even to 40* with a decent merino base. After that I am either using a Woobie or Kelvin pants. In chilly weather with a breeze for extended glassing zipping on those Kelvins is wonderful! Have sat on a cold exposed ridge for 10 hrs in em and been toasty.

 

[blutooth]

Having both and worn them both during 3rd rifle Colorado snowy conditions I would say they are almost the exact same pant with 2 glaring differences:

Timberline has waterproof knee and butt which makes kneeling/sitting a dream no matter the conditions. I do find the waterproof areas to be not as well insulated though.

Attacks have the hip vents which I almost always use while hiking for extended periods of time.

As someone mentioned, add the missing feature to either pair and you have the king of all mid/late season pants. But as is, if it looks to be wet I go timberline and more mild temps where I know I will be hot, attacks get the nod.

The minor differences:
The timberline pants seem less prone to snagging on brush, have more usable pockets I think, and are a very slightly more generous fit.

On my scale my timberlines weigh 25 oz with the built in belt and no knee pads. The attacks weigh 17 with no belt so I would say they are a nearly a wash when it comes to fabric weight.

 

[brocksw]

Something I don't believe has been mentioned is that the attacks are a nylon pant and the timberlines are a polyester pant. That's my only complaint with the timberline pant and conversely my favorite thing about the attacks.

I've found nylon pants are more durable(this might be in part due to the weave), dry faster, and stretch less (especially when they're wet)

With this being said I wear the attacks as late into the season as I can until a wet ass becomes a problem(usually due to heavy frost or snow) then I switch to the timberlines.

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[MT_Wyatt]

Something I don't believe has been mentioned is that the attacks are a nylon pant and the timberlines are a polyester pant. That's my only complaint with the timberline pant and conversely my favorite thing about the attacks.

I've found nylon pants are more durable(this might be in part due to the weave), dry faster, and stretch less (especially when they're wet)

With this being said I wear the attacks as late into the season as I can until a wet ass becomes a problem(usually due to heavy frost or snow) then I switch to the timberlines.

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Attacks are 100% poly. The new timberlines have a much higher nylon content than past models I believe, not totally sure though.


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