Tikka Nitriding

[NSI]

Do you put a few rounds through the barrel first (folks mention doing that to knock down machining marks) or just do the fresh barrel?

Tried it, no difference. Do run a rod through to catch any debris though.

 

[khuber84]

H&M charges $350 per batch of parts correct?

 

[Coopsdaddy]

Brown just showed up.

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I assume you’re happy with the nitrated bolts?
Is that all stainless steel or a mix?

 

[Procision Arms]

@Procision Arms can you share any details you may have found while making the raven?

In regards to nitriding? Yes, we feel it’s an improvement on actions. There is always the debate of chromoly vs stainless and how they should be treated, but with our preliminary testing on nitriding we haven’t seen too many issues.

A lot of the things we’ve seen have been touched on with thread quite a bit- making sure all critical tolerances are cleaned extremely well, and the final finish is extremely hard and durable- post-nitride machining is very difficult.

Overall, we feel it’s worth it and and offer it on our receivers.

 

[T_Widdy]

In regards to nitriding? Yes, we feel it’s an improvement on actions. There is always the debate of chromoly vs stainless and how they should be treated, but with our preliminary testing on nitriding we haven’t seen too many issues.

A lot of the things we’ve seen have been touched on with thread quite a bit- making sure all critical tolerances are cleaned extremely well, and the final finish is extremely hard and durable- post-nitride machining is very difficult.

Overall, we feel it’s worth it and and offer it on our receivers.

There was talk above about what type of steel Tikka uses for blued and stainless actions and also their bolt body. I was just wondering if you might know since you’re designing a very similar action and bolt.


Thanks! Will the Ravens action and bolt be nitrided? Can you share what steel the Ravens action and bolt are made from?

 

[Procision Arms]

There was talk above about what type of steel Tikka uses for blued and stainless actions and also their bolt body. I was just wondering if you might know since you’re designing a very similar action and bolt.


Thanks! Will the Ravens action and bolt be nitrided? Can you share what steel the Ravens action and bolt are made from?

The Raven action and bolt will both be nitrided.

We will eventually share the steels used, but unfortunately not until it’s on the market.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

Have a blued 16 inch threaded 223 ordered thats getting sent to unknown for a rokstock and nitride .
I’m having the action nitrided and curious about the barrel.
Looks like some mixed opinions on doing the barrels.Some claim you need to shoot a few rounds than clean and some say just clean.
Other mixed opinions on its better on AR type barrels than precision barrels.
Am i taking a chance on making it less accurate possibly?
Seems if i wanted to just cerakote it for some protection theres not much negative other than its just cerakote.
I have no idea and some of you have way more knowledge.
Is it worth doing the blued barrel along with the action or just cerakote the barrel?
I know there consumables but the price is similar and I obviously want the best outcome.

 

[Formidilosus]

Have a blued 16 inch threaded 223 ordered thats getting sent to unknown for a rokstock and nitride .
I’m having the action nitrided and curious about the barrel.
Looks like some mixed opinions on doing the barrels.Some claim you need to shoot a few rounds than clean and some say just clean.
Other mixed opinions on its better on AR type barrels than precision barrels.
Am i taking a chance on making it less accurate possibly?
Seems if i wanted to just cerakote it for some protection theres not much negative other than its just cerakote.
I have no idea and some of you have way more knowledge.
Is it worth doing the blued barrel along with the action or just cerakote the barrel?
I know there consumables but the price is similar and I obviously want the best outcome.

Anytime you do anything to a rifle you there is some risk that is effects something. With nitride that is a very low risk. Nitride the whole thing. Ceracoat is just paint on the outside- it does nothing for the bore which is the only functional part that matters.

 

[NSI]

Have a blued 16 inch threaded 223 ordered thats getting sent to unknown for a rokstock and nitride .
I’m having the action nitrided and curious about the barrel.
Looks like some mixed opinions on doing the barrels.Some claim you need to shoot a few rounds than clean and some say just clean.
Other mixed opinions on its better on AR type barrels than precision barrels.
Am i taking a chance on making it less accurate possibly?
Seems if i wanted to just cerakote it for some protection theres not much negative other than its just cerakote.
I have no idea and some of you have way more knowledge.
Is it worth doing the blued barrel along with the action or just cerakote the barrel?
I know there consumables but the price is similar and I obviously want the best outcome.

Our procedure:

1) Break the action, barrel, and bolt apart to bare components. Degrease and store all springs, pins, ejectors, firing pin assemblies, etc.

2) Thread the barrel.

3) Blow out the barrel with compressed air, run a cleaning rod & patch down it with 95% IPA until the patch comes out clean. Mop the chamber with IPA. Degrease the action with IPA.

4) Send the separated action and barrel to H&M for black nitride in batches of one dozen components.

5) Send the bare bolt body to DNA for DLC coating.

6) Reassemble. Test.

We have never had a barrel treated thusly fail our standard (10 rapid rounds in 1.5" at 100yd). We have also never observed accuracy differences before and after nitride in those rare cases where we send a shot barrel to H&M. That being said, we are not leaving crud in there which could be made permanent in some manner by the nitriding process.

-J

 

[Coopsdaddy]

Our procedure:

1) Break the action, barrel, and bolt apart to bare components. Degrease and store all springs, pins, ejectors, firing pin assemblies, etc.

2) Thread the barrel.

3) Blow out the barrel with compressed air, run a cleaning rod & patch down it with 95% IPA until the patch comes out clean. Mop the chamber with IPA. Degrease the action with IPA.

4) Send the separated action and barrel to H&M for black nitride in batches of one dozen components.

5) Send the bare bolt body to DNA for DLC coating.

6) Reassemble. Test.

We have never had a barrel treated thusly fail our standard (10 rapid rounds in 1.5" at 100yd). We have also never observed accuracy differences before and after nitride in those rare cases where we send a shot barrel to H&M. That being said, we are not leaving crud in there which could be made permanent in some manner by the nitriding process.

-J

I’m sure most off the time every thing is done correctly but thats my biggest worry vs just cerakoting it.

 

[WeiserBucks]

I’m sure most off the time every thing is done correctly but thats my biggest worry vs just cerakoting it.

Cerakote is great for changing the color of metal, but a poor choice for any other reason besides color.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

Cerakote is great for changing the color of metal, but a poor choice for any other reason besides color.

Definitely aware of that and know the factory tikka barrel should shoot well left alone.
I’ll call unknown and talk to them to verify it will be cleaned well if i decide to nitride it.