This guy is really milking this tikka thing.

[Cdnance]

And others too. They have a right to express an opinion that Adam uses inferior equipment and techniques to provide optimal results. Adam is a public figure and gets paid to be in the publics eye and with that payment, he has to be ready to take criticism and have a tough skin. That's part of the job.

Jay

Touché




But can’t I have my opinion as well?

 

[The Guide]

Touché




But can’t I have my opinion as well?

Yes sir, we are all entitled to our own opinions. When we voice those thought/opinions on an open forum on the internet, we may receive condemnation or accolades from others who share that open and free forum with us.

All open forums have a dog pile effect. Sometimes they are throwing atta-boys at you and other times they throw dog poop at you. Do I think that people were dog piling negative connotations at Adam? Definitely yes. I think that you saying something slowed the feeding frenzy. Yet there are honest questions about why certain processes are used in Adam's videos when they go against best practices used and taught by the best shooters in the world.

Jay

 

[Cdnance]

Yes sir, we are all entitled to our own opinions. When we voice those thought/opinions on an open forum on the internet, we may receive condemnation or accolades from others who share that open and free forum with us.

All open forums have a dog pile effect. Sometimes they are throwing atta-boys at you and other times they throw dog poop at you. Do I think that people were dog piling negative connotations at Adam? Definitely yes. I think that you saying something slowed the feeding frenzy. Yet there are honest questions about why certain processes are used in Adam's videos when they go against best practices used and taught by the best shooters in the world.

Jay

Absolutely! I completely agree.

Believe it or not, I agree with everything you guys have said. I feel that some of his methods aren’t the best, and I personally have a tikka 300wm Superlite that I feel is far and above the vast majority of factory rifles.
But… it’s a two shot rifle, just like most other skinny barrel magnums. I’ve got two other brand rifles that do the same thing.

It’s all good. I’m not upset or mad about any of it.

 

[HandgunHTR]

Absolutely! I completely agree.

Believe it or not, I agree with everything you guys have said. I feel that some of his methods aren’t the best, and I personally have a tikka 300wm Superlite that I feel is far and above the vast majority of factory rifles.
But… it’s a two shot rifle, just like most other skinny barrel magnums. I’ve got two other brand rifles that do the same thing.

It’s all good. I’m not upset or mad about any of it.

I am definitely not trying to throw shade here, but I would argue that it isn't a "two-shot" rifle, you are a two-shot shooter with that setup. Just like most people. Of course, people don't want to believe that they are the weak link when it comes to shooting groups with light guns using large cartridges. They want to blame the barrel heating up, or other such nonsense, but in all actuality, it is the shooter adjusting their cheek weld, or hold, or follow-through due to recoil that is causing those groups to open up. And no, a lead sled will not take away that issue unless the rifle is set up flawlessly and tightly, and the sled and rifle are set up exactly the same way each shot.
There is a reason why the 7PRC in the Tikka is getting a rep as not being that accurate. One is that the factory loads are not that great, but the main reason is that it is a light rifle shooting a relatively large cartridge. I would bet that if someone tested a 300WM, a 7RM, and a 7PRC straight out of the box all at the same time, there would be similar results across all three, or at least not enough difference between them all to be statistically significant.

 

[S-3 ranch]

Tikka makes an awesome rifle for sure, but the super lite in heavy caliber isn’t one of them , it has its flaws when it is chambered In 300, 7mm

There are a few other brands that have problems with the heavy caliber stuff
My 375 ruger Remington clone is one of them just not built for those heavy duty ones

 

[Deere_Man]

Tikka makes an awesome rifle for sure, but the super lite in heavy caliber isn’t one of them , it has its flaws when it is chambered In 300, 7mm

There are a few other brands that have problems with the heavy caliber stuff
My 375 ruger Remington clone is one of them just not built for those heavy duty ones

He should reviewed the cheaper T3X Lite in 223! Somebody send Adam a true Rockslide Special to review. @WHOTEEWHO

 

[S-3 ranch]

He should reviewed the cheaper T3X Lite in 223! Somebody send Adam a true Rockslide Special to review. @WHOTEEWHO

Yeah a 6lbs rifle like that is meant for a small caliber, or something anemic like 308 , 6.5cm , 223
Just to much flex and recoil on such a light weight weapon

 

[Cdnance]

I am definitely not trying to throw shade here, but I would argue that it isn't a "two-shot" rifle, you are a two-shot shooter with that setup. Just like most people. Of course, people don't want to believe that they are the weak link when it comes to shooting groups with light guns using large cartridges. They want to blame the barrel heating up, or other such nonsense, but in all actuality, it is the shooter adjusting their cheek weld, or hold, or follow-through due to recoil that is causing those groups to open up. And no, a lead sled will not take away that issue unless the rifle is set up flawlessly and tightly, and the sled and rifle are set up exactly the same way each shot.
There is a reason why the 7PRC in the Tikka is getting a rep as not being that accurate. One is that the factory loads are not that great, but the main reason is that it is a light rifle shooting a relatively large cartridge. I would bet that if someone tested a 300WM, a 7RM, and a 7PRC straight out of the box all at the same time, there would be similar results across all three, or at least not enough difference between them all to be statistically significant.

The human element is almost always the weak link.
So do you not think that a hot barrel will cause groupings to open up?

 

[nm.otter]

So do you not think that a hot barrel will cause groupings to open up?

As long as the barrel is properly stress relieved, no.

Sako/Tikka CHF barrels should not do this.

 

[grfox92]

The human element is almost always the weak link.
So do you not think that a hot barrel will cause groupings to open up?

When i said that the Tikka was factually a better rifle than the Mossberg, thats where I was going with this.

Tikka produces true hammer forged barrels. Properly stress relieve barrels do not change point of impact with heat.

No other mass produced factory rifle under $1k comes with a truly hammer forged stress relieved barrel.



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[thinhorn_AK]

He should reviewed the cheaper T3X Lite in 223! Somebody send Adam a true Rockslide Special to review. @WHOTEEWHO

Why?? Who even cares what that guy thinks??? Why spend money and time so he can make a pointless YouTube video???

I guarantee you he would just pretend he hated the fun just so he wouldn’t have to admit he was wrong. Sort of like the gritty bowman guy did with kifaru after his bromance with Aron Snyder ended.

 

[Deere_Man]

Why?? Who even cares what that guy thinks??? Why spend money and time so he can make a pointless YouTube video???

I guarantee you he would just pretend he hated the fun just so he wouldn’t have to admit he was wrong. Sort of like the gritty bowman guy did with kifaru after his bromance with Aron Snyder ended.

Well, he does have over a dozen YouTube videos with over a million views each, so I guess some people care?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Well, he does have over a dozen YouTube videos with over a million views each, so I guess some people care?

But does it matter to you if more people like Tikkas? I may be jaded, but I just make my recommendations based on what I like and what has worked for me.

If someone prefers a Mossberg to a Tikka, that’s no skin off my teeth.


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[thinhorn_AK]

Well, he does have over a dozen YouTube videos with over a million views each, so I guess some people care?

lol @ knowing how many views some dude has on YouTube…..

 

[Redleg84]

I don't know how can anyone take that guy serious after listening to him speak for more than 10 seconds

 

[Deere_Man]

lol @ knowing how many views some dude has on YouTube…..

lol, yeah I didn’t know, but once you said that no one cares what he says, it got me curious. It was just a couple of clicks, not difficult to find.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

lol, yeah I didn’t know, but once you said that no one cares what he says, it got me curious. It was just a couple of clicks, not difficult to find.

The way YouTube just puts on a video after another finishes and sort of creates playlists makes me wonder how accurate those “views” are. If my video finishes then some dork pops up talking about tikkas and I skip it, is that a view if it already started playing? I don’t know, I can say though that I’ve never actually paid attention to how many views some video has.

I think social media is sort of dumb and the irony of saying that on an internet forum isn’t lost on me. The whole thing is sort of ridiculous. I knew a guy who swore up and down that he hated social media and what it’s done to hunting, he would talk trash about all the social media hunters yet….he was the first one to start posting pics of his trip, he would # everything including the people he apparently hated. It wasn’t until later it actually became apparent how entrenched he was in the social media hunting scene after hearing him bag on it for like 3 years.

Now I’m just ranting, point is that people can say whatever they want on the internet, it dosent make them some expert. This howdydoo or whatever his name is isn’t an expert, just a guy who makes videos about guns. His opinions are worth what you paid for them.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

But does it matter to you if more people like Tikkas? I may be jaded, but I just make my recommendations based on what I like and what has worked for me.

If someone prefers a Mossberg to a Tikka, that’s no skin off my teeth.


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It dosent matter to me, I have a buddy who loves his savage rifle. I don’t personally like it but my opinion dosent matter since it’s not mine.

 

[5811]

When i said that the Tikka was factually a better rifle than the Mossberg, thats where I was going with this.

Tikka produces true hammer forged barrels. Properly stress relieve barrels do not change point of impact with heat.

No other mass produced factory rifle under $1k comes with a truly hammer forged stress relieved barrel.



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Can you clarify what you mean when you say "truly hammer forged"? I know ruger american barrels are CHF but I'm curious what distinction you are making.

 

[HandgunHTR]

The human element is almost always the weak link.
So do you not think that a hot barrel will cause groupings to open up?

As long as the barrel is properly stress relieved, no. Sako/Tikka CHF barrels should not do this.

^^^This!

I have three Tikka's that still have factory barrels on them. Two still have factory chambers and one has been rechambered to a bit of a "barrel burner". The rechambered one was a blued 6.5 Creedmoor that was rechambered to 6.5 Sherman Max. The other two are factory SS, one in .308 and one in 6.5 Creedmoor. I can shoot all three until they are so hot they will burn you and point of impact doesn't change. All three have had 20-shot groups fired through them to confirm zero both by shooting 20 in one sitting with only letting it cool enough for mirage to settle (anywhere from 10 seconds to 1.5 minutes between shots) and shooting 20, one at a time, 10-15 minutes apart. The group sizes were pretty much the same.

This is the same for all of my custom rifle barrels as well (Bartlein, Krieger, McGowan, Wilson, X-Caliber, and Preferred).