The Rokslide Stock Traders Thread

[Spoonbill]

DRSHF and AMPX continuing the pump. Oh and that other stock that I left a crazy amount on the bone.... MP.

I had a limit sell on AMPX thinking it wouldnt double from where I bought it for at least a year…. Was wrong on that.
Any idea why the stock has been shooting up lately?

 

[HuntHarder]

I had a limit sell on AMPX thinking it wouldnt double from where I bought it for at least a year…. Was wrong on that.
Any idea why the stock has been shooting up lately?

Multiple price target increases with lots around the $9-$11 target. Today's increase is likely tied to the announcement of getting into Amazon Devices Climate Tech Accelerator program.

 

[MountainTracker]

PLTR up nicely today.

NVDA up big AH.

Let’s see what happens at the opening bell.



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PLTR has some contracts with DHS and with the BBB being passed I’m sure they will continue to rise.

The AH pump is probably related to NVDA being able to sell chips to China again.


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[MountainTracker]

What Crypto Week in Congress Means for Stablecoins, CBDCs and Market Rules

On deck: Stablecoin, market structure and central bank digital currency bills.

www.coindesk.com

Will we see more upward price action or sell the news?


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House didn’t pass the bills on the first going around. Price doesn’t seem to care.

Vanguard is apparently one of the top holders of MSTR some like $7-8 billion. Yet they won’t let customers hold btc and actively discourage it.


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[Poser]

Inflation report not good -not too much of a negative reaction yesterday, though SCHD was certainly affected. Might impact today?

Ethereum comes back alive, up over 20% in the last week.

XRP testing $3 again.

I'm up heavy at the moment.

 

[WaWox]

House didn’t pass the bills on the first going around. Price doesn’t seem to care.

Vanguard is apparently one of the top holders of MSTR some like $7-8 billion. Yet they won’t let customers hold btc and actively discourage it.


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Vanguard owns 7bn of MSTR because MSTR is a publicly listed company. So MSTR is tracked in all the total stock market indices that vanguard tracks.

So vanguard doesn't own any MSTR -- it's customers own it via their VTI or other ETF products

 

[Poser]

House didn’t pass the bills on the first going around. Price doesn’t seem to care.

What I'm reading is that there were concerns that the bill didn't go far enough for crypto and the next version will even be more beneficial for crypto holders.

The other issue is that, naturally, there are non crypto related matters such as defense spending rolled into the bill.

 

[MountainTracker]

What I'm reading is that there were concerns that the bill didn't go far enough for crypto and the next version will even be more beneficial for crypto holders.

The other issue is that, naturally, there are non crypto related matters such as defense spending rolled into the bill.

I guess all the folks that voted no met with the president yesterday and they are now on board supposedly. Price movement would seem to indicate that is the case.


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[MountainTracker]

Vanguard owns 7bn of MSTR because MSTR is a publicly listed company. So MSTR is tracked in all the total stock market indices that vanguard tracks.

So vanguard doesn't own any MSTR -- it's customers own it via their VTI or other ETF products

Correct, the part that is interesting is even though vanguard dislikes btc and won’t offer it directly, their customers still find a way to proxy own btc via MSTR. This would highlight investors desire to have exposure to btc.


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[WaWox]

Correct, the part that is interesting is even though vanguard dislikes btc and won’t offer it directly, their customers still find a way to proxy own btc via MSTR. This would highlight investors desire to have exposure to btc.


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Tbh i think thats a very incorrect interpretation.

I have no desire to own crypto and I own some $ in crypto because I own broad index funds. If I could exclude MSTR from my VTI holdings I would. But they don't offer too many "index fund but with a tweak" products (and for good reasons -- most of them are a mild form of a scam) do Vanguard doesnt offer that.

If you surveyed 1000 people with, say, $100k in broad index etf holdings or more, and asked if they are holding crypto via their etfs I think most would say "no"

 

[Pharmseller]

New high for PLTR.

 

[MThoundhunter]

Making money on SLDP, still time to buy in my opinion.

What are folks thoughts on nuclear stocks? SMR and UURAF are on my radar right now, no positions yet but I see a huge market for nuclear over the next decade.

 

[MountainTracker]

Tbh i think thats a very incorrect interpretation.

I have no desire to own crypto and I own some $ in crypto because I own broad index funds. If I could exclude MSTR from my VTI holdings I would. But they don't offer too many "index fund but with a tweak" products (and for good reasons -- most of them are a mild form of a scam) do Vanguard doesnt offer that.

If you surveyed 1000 people with, say, $100k in broad index etf holdings or more, and asked if they are holding crypto via their etfs I think most would say "no"

$7 billion would say they want exposure to btc. You don’t hold MSTR bc it’s MSTR you hold it bc they hold btc, which gives it high returns.


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[Poser]

I'm curios to see the details of this:

U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to sign an executive order in the coming days designed to help make private-market investments more available to U.S. retirement plans, the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, citing people familiar with the matter.
The Trump order would instruct the U.S. Labor Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission to provide guidance to employers and plan administrators on including investments like private assets in 401(k) plans, according to the WSJ report.

Though, consider me suspicious that this won't benefit the hedge funds far more than the individual with an average 401k.

 

[WaWox]

$7 billion would say they want exposure to btc. You don’t hold MSTR bc it’s MSTR you hold it bc they hold btc, which gives it high returns.


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That's not how this works


If you buy $10,000 of VTI from Vanguard, Vanguard goes into the market and buys $550 of nvidia, $600 of Microsoft,..., $160 of tesla, ...., and also $16 of MSTR.
[Well the actual mechanics of etf share creation are more complex and work via in kind redemption/provision by brokers but the above is mostly correct]

You don't get to pick what VTI invests in. You don't get to select or exclude. It's just tracking an index.

You can actually check which funds run by Vanguard are holding MSTR. the biggest is VTIX which just tracks the whole US market

 

[WaWox]

I'm curios to see the details of this:

U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to sign an executive order in the coming days designed to help make private-market investments more available to U.S. retirement plans, the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, citing people familiar with the matter.
The Trump order would instruct the U.S. Labor Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission to provide guidance to employers and plan administrators on including investments like private assets in 401(k) plans, according to the WSJ report.

Though, consider me suspicious that this won't benefit the hedge funds far more than the individual with an average 401k.

The US rules on private investments already exclude very few people. There are approx equally many households with an income of $250k / net worth of 1mil as there are households that participate in thr stock market outside of their 401k.

This will just make it easier for private equity or private credit funds to dump their bad trades on retail investors

 

[Poser]

This will just make it easier for private equity or private credit funds to dump their bad trades on retail investors

I expect it will be something like that -just a way for the private equities and credit funds to get their grubby hands on that, until now, untouchable trillions sitting in 401ks.

 

[WaWox]

I expect it will be something like that -just a way for the private equities and credit funds to get their grubby hands on that, until now, untouchable trillions sitting in 401ks.

Most PE funds are sitting on tons of firms they simply cannot exit right now -- if they exit them in current conditions, the prices will be too low to trigger their internal hurdle rates for their carried interest to pay out. In other words, if they sell now, they don't get paid.

But retail *loves* private equity (because they couldnt get in previously), so will pay 100% premium on what scraps of PE they can get their hands on. Perfect time to sell all the illiquid middling-quality investments to retail-focused funds and get your payday after all!

 

[sasquatch]

Most PE funds are sitting on tons of firms they simply cannot exit right now -- if they exit them in current conditions, the prices will be too low to trigger their internal hurdle rates for their carried interest to pay out. In other words, if they sell now, they don't get paid.

But retail *loves* private equity (because they couldnt get in previously), so will pay 100% premium on what scraps of PE they can get their hands on. Perfect time to sell all the illiquid middling-quality investments to retail-focused funds and get your payday after all!

A fool and his money??


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[MountainTracker]

That's not how this works


If you buy $10,000 of VTI from Vanguard, Vanguard goes into the market and buys $550 of nvidia, $600 of Microsoft,..., $160 of tesla, ...., and also $16 of MSTR.
[Well the actual mechanics of etf share creation are more complex and work via in kind redemption/provision by brokers but the above is mostly correct]

You don't get to pick what VTI invests in. You don't get to select or exclude. It's just tracking an index.

You can actually check which funds run by Vanguard are holding MSTR. the biggest is VTIX which just tracks the whole US market

Yeah I was referencing just the purchase of MSTR not the mixed funds, which has a little MSTR.


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