The Raven: Unknown Munitions Tikka Clone action coming soon?

[Formidilosus]

The Ti desired could not be sourced effectively. Right now there will be three options it looks like:


1). Standard steel

2). Standard steel with dust cover

3). Steel with bridge cut away and lighting cuts.

 

[Jake Larsen]

The Ti desired could not be sourced effectively. Right now there will be three options it looks like:


1). Standard steel

2). Standard steel with dust cover

3). Steel with bridge cut away and lighting cuts.

I’d be very curious to know how much weight the dust cover adds. Wouldn’t it (mostly) offset the issues of the lightening cuts, creating a “best of both worlds” option to balance weight and function?

This is not me grumbling BTW. Sounds like they’re going to be making options to make most people happy including me.


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[gtriple]

I’d be very curious to know how much weight the dust cover adds. Wouldn’t it (mostly) offset the issues of the lightening cuts, creating a “best of both worlds” option to balance weight and function?

This is not me grumbling BTW. Sounds like they’re going to be making options to make most people happy including me.


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I don’t think you can do the dust cover with the light version. The light version will have the rail above the port milled out too, so the dust cover won’t cover it.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

I’d be very curious to know how much weight the dust cover adds. Wouldn’t it (mostly) offset the issues of the lightening cuts, creating a “best of both worlds” option to balance weight and function?

This is not me grumbling BTW. Sounds like they’re going to be making options to make most people happy including me.


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I don’t think you can do the dust cover with the light version. The light version will have the rail above the port milled out too, so the dust cover won’t cover it.

I’ve never personally had any issue with the opened up rail on my UM tikka’s, but if I shot a lot of NRL matches where they require your bolt to be back while atv’s blast by and kick up a ton of dust.. .. I’d 100% go with the dust cover version.

 

[Jake Larsen]

I’ve never personally had any issue with the opened up rail on my UM tikka’s, but if I shot a lot of NRL matches where they require your bolt to be back while atv’s blast by and kick up a ton of dust.. .. I’d 100% go with the dust cover version.

I’m guessing most of the issues are going to come with snow/water/freezing temps. Open bolt flutes are catching and funneling snow/water into the action. That’s been my experience with my fancy R700 clones anyways.

Im not a super duper once counter, but I do like a balance with my rifles. 8.5 lbs all in has been my personal favorite sweet spot for carrying/shooting. Should still be doable with the fully sealed option, although a S2H 2-8x36 THLR would sure help with the overall weight… I might have to drop a barrel contour to keep it under 9#. I’ve been running 16.5” chopped and fluted Brux #4, CRB Hunter, ect.


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[atmat]

I don’t think you can do the dust cover with the light version. The light version will have the rail above the port milled out too, so the dust cover won’t cover it.

Yeah but I think he’s saying best of both worlds would be the keep the rail, add the dust cover, and then do lightening cuts (e.g., a hybrid between the light and dust cover version).

 

[Jake Larsen]

Yeah but I think he’s saying best of both worlds would be the keep the rail, add the dust cover, and then do lightening cuts (e.g., a hybrid between the light and dust cover version).

This is what I was envisioning, you explained it way better than I did. Just eyeballing the amount of material, it seems like that wouldn’t add too much weight to the “Lite” but would add a lot of functionality in terms of sealing up the action. I could imagine that the issues with bolt flutes don’t matter if they’re covered up, although that would need to be tested obviously. It would also be a large differentiator between a UM milled out Tikka vs the Raven Lite, besides the pic rail.

I could be totally wrong here, I’m guessing the guys designing this have thought of the same things. Just curious to hear it from the horses mouth.


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[gtriple]

This is what I was envisioning, you explained it way better than I did. Just eyeballing the amount of material, it seems like that wouldn’t add too much weight to the “Lite” but would add a lot of functionality in terms of sealing up the action. I could imagine that the issues with bolt flutes don’t matter if they’re covered up, although that would need to be tested obviously. It would also be a large differentiator between a UM milled out Tikka vs the Raven Lite, besides the pic rail.

I could be totally wrong here, I’m guessing the guys designing this have thought of the same things. Just curious to hear it from the horses mouth.


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Without opening up the port, the "lightening cuts" are probably not going to make much of a difference. You are talking like an ounce or two. And it increases the cost.

If someone isn't trying to cut ounces, the dust cover is worth going with the standard.

If someone is trying to cut ounces, eliminating the dust cover is fine. There's plenty of rifles out there with exposed ports.

 

[wind gypsy]

Without opening up the port, the "lightening cuts" are probably not going to make much of a difference. You are talking like an ounce or two. And it increases the cost.

If someone isn't trying to cut ounces, the dust cover is worth going with the standard.

If someone is trying to cut ounces, eliminating the dust cover is fine. There's plenty of rifles out there with exposed ports.

Very thin metal closed ports without the picatinny in the center + dust cover = the tits IMO.

 

[mauiarcher]

The Ti desired could not be sourced effectively. Right now there will be three options it looks like:


1). Standard steel

2). Standard steel with dust cover

3). Steel with bridge cut away and lighting cuts.

I'd definitely be in for #3 if 24oz and $1200 or less. I think the additional $400 over a stainless tikka rifle is worth it just so I don't have to take a factory barrel off....and the pic rail.

 

[swavescatter]

I think the additional $400 over a stainless tikka rifle is worth it just so I don't have to take a factory barrel off....and the pic rail.

If you ever need this done I'll do it for only $300 .

 

[Schmo]

If you ever need this done I'll do it for only $300 .

Yeah, no kidding. It’s not that hard. Some guys make it out to be an impossible task. A good vise and an outside action wrench and you’re off to the races

 

[mauiarcher]

Yeah, no kidding. It’s not that hard. Some guys make it out to be an impossible task. A good vise and an outside action wrench and you’re off to the races

I've got a SAC vise and external wrench. I have only done 2 - the first came off relatively easy and thought the same as you...what's the big deal? Why does everyone think this a thing? However, the second was a bear and changed my mind. Neither came off without evidence of such on both barrel and action despite dry wall tape on barrel and blue tape under the action wrench.

If the Raven is 28oz like the tikka action (or more than $1200), I will continue to go to war with the stock rifles.

 

[Judd]

My buddy and I swear Tikka employs a gorilla over there to install these barrels

It really is overkill...saying that, I've pulled Remington's apart that had some sort of epoxy type crap in them...you can't hardly pull one of theirs off without heat and I've quit trying.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I'd definitely be in for #3 if 24oz and $1200 or less. I think the additional $400 over a stainless tikka rifle is worth it just so I don't have to take a factory barrel off....and the pic rail.

With the integrated picatinny rail, I think it’s still cheaper than buying a Sako for the action. I doubt I am in the market for one of these, but that’s the big selling point for me.

 

[rbutcher1234]

Any concepts or mock ups with that dust cover option would look like?

 

[BRTreedogs]

Any concepts or mock ups with that dust cover option would look like?

I imagine it will look exactly like and AR10 dust cover.

 

[Lawnboi]

I’d pay for a full rail an a dust cover before lightning cuts and fluting.

As is, I have enough tikkas that I just don’t need another action that functionally accomplishes the same thing as my T3x with a bonded rail. However start adding things like a dust cover and anything else that can be further done to weatherproof the action and I’d be in.