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Just picked up a Mathews Lift X and need to change the draw length, so I was looking for a manual showing which mods correspond to which DL, and it got me wondering -- why the hell are Mathews manuals absolute crap? I'm not a Mathews hater (started on a Genesis when it was still under the Mathews name, have owned an Outback) or fanboy (been shooting Elite for the last decade plus), but holy cow this is just shoddy consumer support.
The manual on their site is 16 pages long, with 4 pages of anything remotely useful - and three of those pages are just CYA warnings! There are more pages of hunt pictures than there are of actual useful information! And that one page of actual content isn't even up to date - It's still recommending the old Zebra Trophy strings, which weren't even the ones being offered from factory in 2023 when the manual was published! They've introduced a self-service tuning feature since then, but they can't publish a new manual that shows how to actually use it?
Elite has a great manual with specs for every model including mod settings for draw length, how-tos for all of their tuning features, assembly diagrams and explanations for all of their mods including adjusting letoff and changing draw stops. AND they have an entire separate tuning guide on top of that!
Darton's manual is online too. They've got 3 pages of warnings, and the other 7 pages are actually useful. They've got tuning instructions for all their systems, adjusting draw weight, draw length, setting center shot, and even some bits about paper tuning. They also have spec sheets for every one of their models, with module charts.
Hoyt's manual includes setup instructions, maintenance instructions, and tuning instructions, as well as specific guidance for adjusting draw weight between different models, and guidance for cam assembly. They've also got a dedicated recurve manual that is similarly verbose.
PSE's manual is the same kind of toilet paper as Mathews', all CYA and no content. BUT, at least they have the decency to also publish a tuning guide that's pretty comprehensive, if a little dated.
Bowtech has manuals for all of their models, all of which have tuning and setup instructions.
Bear just does one giant manual for all their bows, but at least it's got actual setup, maintenance, and tuning instructions in there.
Prime's manuals are kinda weak in that they shrug off tuning as something for your dealer to handle, but at least they still have guidance for the adjustments you can do yourself at home. Somewhat justifiable because they haven't made any user-adjustable tuning features.
So why is it that Mathews, who markets as the best of the best most premium bows out there, can't even bother to update their website with current manuals? Come on guys, you were incredibly vocal about how your limb shift mechanism means you could change your tune on the firing line, and you have an accessory intended to allow people to service their bows in the field. Why on earth would you not include some sort of documentation to show people how to use those?! I get wanting consumers to maintain strong relationships with their local dealers, but holy shit why do I need my hand held to see how to use a feature you built into your bow *specifically* for the end user to operate on their own?!
Rant over - anyone know what mod I need to get my Lift X 33 to 65lb peak weight and 30.5" draw?
The manual on their site is 16 pages long, with 4 pages of anything remotely useful - and three of those pages are just CYA warnings! There are more pages of hunt pictures than there are of actual useful information! And that one page of actual content isn't even up to date - It's still recommending the old Zebra Trophy strings, which weren't even the ones being offered from factory in 2023 when the manual was published! They've introduced a self-service tuning feature since then, but they can't publish a new manual that shows how to actually use it?
Elite has a great manual with specs for every model including mod settings for draw length, how-tos for all of their tuning features, assembly diagrams and explanations for all of their mods including adjusting letoff and changing draw stops. AND they have an entire separate tuning guide on top of that!
Darton's manual is online too. They've got 3 pages of warnings, and the other 7 pages are actually useful. They've got tuning instructions for all their systems, adjusting draw weight, draw length, setting center shot, and even some bits about paper tuning. They also have spec sheets for every one of their models, with module charts.
Hoyt's manual includes setup instructions, maintenance instructions, and tuning instructions, as well as specific guidance for adjusting draw weight between different models, and guidance for cam assembly. They've also got a dedicated recurve manual that is similarly verbose.
PSE's manual is the same kind of toilet paper as Mathews', all CYA and no content. BUT, at least they have the decency to also publish a tuning guide that's pretty comprehensive, if a little dated.
Bowtech has manuals for all of their models, all of which have tuning and setup instructions.
Bear just does one giant manual for all their bows, but at least it's got actual setup, maintenance, and tuning instructions in there.
Prime's manuals are kinda weak in that they shrug off tuning as something for your dealer to handle, but at least they still have guidance for the adjustments you can do yourself at home. Somewhat justifiable because they haven't made any user-adjustable tuning features.
So why is it that Mathews, who markets as the best of the best most premium bows out there, can't even bother to update their website with current manuals? Come on guys, you were incredibly vocal about how your limb shift mechanism means you could change your tune on the firing line, and you have an accessory intended to allow people to service their bows in the field. Why on earth would you not include some sort of documentation to show people how to use those?! I get wanting consumers to maintain strong relationships with their local dealers, but holy shit why do I need my hand held to see how to use a feature you built into your bow *specifically* for the end user to operate on their own?!
Rant over - anyone know what mod I need to get my Lift X 33 to 65lb peak weight and 30.5" draw?
