"The line we won't cross," by Day Six Gear.

[MattB]

"As a sidebar, for those who dream of being on brand X “pro-staff”, “pro” is not short for professional it’s an abbreviation for promotional"

That's one of the most spot on things I've heard in a while.
I laugh about at all the "pros" out there. Yeah, I have a guide's license and I get my discount too.
Whoopty-doo. Just more advertising

A good friend is a reps hunting gear and he jokes about the pro-staffer hand shake. That is when the pro-staffer approaches him and extend a hand, but it is palm up - hoping my friend will put some free stuff in it.

When I hear some of his stories, I wonder how some of those pro-staffers can even look at themselves in the mirror. Just disgusting, entitled behavior.

 

[Pacific_Fork]

They just gained a customer.

I’m loving that this movement, albeit slowly, is growing.

Hunt quietly and vote with your dollars peeps.

 

[Bbell12]

Never used their products before but they just gained a new customer in me.

 

[TCUHunter34]

To those saying they are new customers, you are buying into a great product regardless of what you buy. Their components are top notch for arrow builds as well as very good arrows themselves.

 

[HuntandFly]

Is there a good single source to determine what other companies espouse this same set of values when it comes to the future of hunting and the industry?

 

[ethan]

Bryan is a great guy and I’ve been using DaySix arrows and heads now for the last 5 or 6 years. Great arrows, and a great company.

 

[TheTone]

I wish he would make a 204 arrow if for no other reason the increased component options that already exist

 

[dkime]

I wish he would make a 204 arrow if for no other reason the increased component options that already exist

No better time than the present to let the cat out of the bag, our new 204s will be dropping within the next 30 days with a 204 centric system. We’ve been working on this project for coming up on a year and we’re pumped to drop them this summer.

DK-D6


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[Billy Goat]

No better time than the present to let the cat out of the bag, our new 204s will be dropping within the next 30 days with a 204 centric system. We’ve been working on this project for coming up on a year and we’re pumped to drop them this summer.

DK-D6


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Hahaha.

The Silent Slider has some news.

 

[dkime]

Hahaha.

The Silent Slider has some news.

I’ve been a bit MIA so I apologize, you guys can feel free to call or email us for the details. We will put together a more formal post when the shafts are going to go live but for now I felt we could spread some good news


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[the_bowhunter]

"As a sidebar, for those who dream of being on brand X “pro-staff”, “pro” is not short for professional it’s an abbreviation for promotional"

That's one of the most spot on things I've heard in a while.
I laugh about at all the "pros" out there. Yeah, I have a guide's license and I get my discount too.
Whoopty-doo. Just more advertising

I remember coming out of high school thinking being “pro-staff” was the thing to be. Quickly learned that there was something to be said about actually working in the industry and receiving a pay check, and staying lowkey. Met a handful of pro staffers, professional hunters, social media stars who you couldn’t pay me enough to hunt with them let alone hang out with them.

I work alot of conventions for a popular hunting company. Get asked all of the time if I’m “pro-staff” for them. I usually laugh and say no, they send me an actual paycheck.


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[timekiller13]

While I respect the position statement and glad to see a company willing to a stand, does anyone else not see the irony in all this??

A company ADVERTISES that they are going to no longer associate themselves or fall victim to the “Influencer” and “social media movement.” This ADVERTISEMENT is posted on their website, sent out via email, which is then POSTED ON A SOCIAL MEDIA SITE (here) and they have already gained new customers.

Very clever. And a smart business move.

 

[rideold]

Oh, I wouldn't cheapen their willingness to state their position. Was it all a covert ploy to get advertising? I certainly did not take it that way or believe that was their intent.

 

[dkime]

While I respect the position statement and glad to see a company willing to a stand, does anyone else not see the irony in all this??

A company ADVERTISES that they are going to no longer associate themselves or fall victim to the “Influencer” and “social media movement.” This ADVERTISEMENT is posted on their website, sent out via email, which is then POSTED ON A SOCIAL MEDIA SITE (here) and they have already gained new customers.

Very clever. And a smart business move.

We definitely see your point, which is why the email was only sent to our existing customers. Additionally we didn’t make a post about this on social media, or this forum. It was done by others simply through word of mouth.

Comments like this are what make it hard for a company to take a stand publicly.


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[timekiller13]

We definitely see your point, which is why the email was only sent to our existing customers. Additionally we didn’t make a post about this on social media, or this forum. It was done by others simply through word of mouth.

Comments like this are what make it hard for a company to take a stand publicly.


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Don’t take my post the wrong way.

I love it when any company takes a stand and makes a statement. Doesn’t matter whether I agree with their statement or not, I’m all for it. This is America. I support capitalism and free speech.

But, I’m just pointing out that it was a smart business move.

 

[Rob5589]

In defense of Day Six, I found the link through IG that was posted by someone else. It wasn't posted by DS themselves on SM.

 

[307]

The following isn't a criticism of Day Six.

OK, but what's the point?

Every company believes that they operate within high ethical standards.
Every company believes that they "will not support anyone who promotes what we feel is unethical or dangerous hunting practices regardless of its legality"
Every company claims "will not put our business needs over wildlife and the future of hunting, period."

It's definitely feel good pandering (and maybe effective marketing based on the response here) but I'm failing to see how this is somehow "taking a stand". What meaningful actions are being taken?

I read a solid email version of a pep rally. An effort to paint yourself as the "good guys" whom we should support with our $ rather than the "bad guys", and while there's nothing wrong with that, it's not exactly revolutionary.

I am happy to hear about the .204 stuff though.

 

[RampartLB]

The following isn't a criticism of Day Six.

OK, but what's the point?

Every company believes that they operate within high ethical standards.
Every company believes that they "will not support anyone who promotes what we feel is unethical or dangerous hunting practices regardless of its legality"
Every company claims "will not put our business needs over wildlife and the future of hunting, period."

It's definitely feel good pandering (and maybe effective marketing based on the response here) but I'm failing to see how this is somehow "taking a stand". What meaningful actions are being taken?

I read a solid email version of a pep rally. An effort to paint yourself as the "good guys" whom we should support with our $ rather than the "bad guys", and while there's nothing wrong with that, it's not exactly revolutionary.

I am happy to hear about the .204 stuff though.

As a marketing guy in this industry I assure you that your statement is incorrect and empty, I’ve stood my ground with companies attempting to not work with some awful people but top down leadership only cared about sales and moving the needle. Companies like Day Six and stances like this are far more rare than you would think, I’d stay on your side of the curtain

 

[307]

As a marketing guy in this industry I assure you that your statement is incorrect and empty, I’ve stood my ground with companies attempting to not work with some awful people but top down leadership only cared about sales and moving the needle. Companies like Day Six and stances like this are far more rare than you would think, I’d stay on your side of the curtain

What they say and what they do are likely different, but really, they all pretty much say the same things.

IOW, some companies will have actual high standards of conduct, while others won't, but BOTH will claim that they do.

You've actually proved my point.

 

[Yoder]

If too many animals are being killed by hunters, it's the fault and greed of wildlife management agencies selling too many tags.