The All New MRC/S2H Marshall Rifle Now Available

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So explain it.

I been following this for a while now.


Pretend you are talking to a forking tard.

2x R700 based “custom” rifles, and 1x stock R700 had failures. None had the actions open.

After those malfunctions/failures we had all the rifles bolt open, ejection port up to see what would happen to the non R700 based guns. 1x Tikka had an action full of snow (full) get crushed when the user chambered it. The bolt had to be beat closed by hand. That was the only non R700 rifle issue. The other 8x Tikkas and MRC had no issues even with snow in the actions.

3 more days of constant snow in below 0° F weather, and no Tikka or the MRC’s have had a mechanical failure or issue. A Bixn Andy TacSport trigger had a light strike today- out of 20 rounds fired.
 

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True but how is this gun any different? In ten years it’s probably won’t be worth $1900, well it wouldn’t in my eyes anyways.

A Lego part Tikka can be parted out, not sure if this is the same.

MRC is a factory built rifle. It will be referenced as such in the blue book of gun values. A Tikka T3X custom you spent $3K on will be worth stock T3X money at best but probably less.

Used Tikka custom parted out…the complete receiver will have some value provided it’s stainless and not beat, barrel value will be the cost of a good straight goat stake, and the custom synthetic stock will be ~half of new. .
 
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2x R700 based “custom” rifles, and 1x stock R700 had failures. None had the actions open.

After those malfunctions/failures we had all the rifles bolt open, ejection port up to see what would happen to the non R700 based guns. 1x Tikka had an action full of snow (full) get crushed when the user chambered it. The bolt had to be beat closed by hand. That was the only non R700 rifle issue. The other 8x Tikkas and MRC had no issues even with snow in the actions.

3 more days of constant snow in below 0° F weather, and no Tikka or the MRC’s have had a mechanical failure or issue. A Bixn Andy TacSport trigger had a light strike today- out of 20 rounds fired.

I don't doubt you had trouble with R700 pattern actions.


I'm wondering, why do you think a tikka action can handle a bunch of ice/snow in the action? It's pretty simple, rifles are designed for an amount of chamber space. Anything past that is going to cause issues, one way or another. Not to mention lugs seating. It seems like testing for function with lugs (action) open isn't really testing a lot but how much material the action allows in. That can be important, but isn't always fair either.
 

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MRC is a factory built rifle. It will be referenced as such in the blue book of gun values. A Tikka T3X custom you spent $3K on will be worth stock T3X money at best but probably less.

Used Tikka custom parted out…the complete receiver will have some value provided it’s stainless and not beat, barrel value will be the cost of a good straight goat stake, and the custom synthetic stock will be ~half of new. .

Not if that custom stock is a Rokstock! In 10 years some of those original orders are going to be sick enough of waiting they’ll pay 5x the price.


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LMAO🤣🤣🤣🤣. I think you are overestimating the market on that fugly stock.
There are people that been waiting 13 months on their rokstok orders.

Now new model rokstok that was previously never sold is coming out in complete rifle form. Still can't order a Rokstok, all back orders still not fulfilled.

Guys getting in line paying for new rokrifles that are being quoted as summer/fall delivery.

There is no overestimating going on here......
 
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I’m interested because the factory offerings are hard to find in a quality rifle or without a rebarrel/custom ordered rifle.

However, what has the new MRC done to overcome the customer service shortcomings of the old MRC. A name change would have been a great place to start.
Knowing previous employees of the old MRC I have questions but am interested.
 

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This has me mildly interested as someone without the skill or local competent GS to do any work. But am wondering why go MRC vs UM building a tikka for me. I’m simple. A 18” 6mm CM threaded 5/8x24 everything else is really lipstick on a pig for me. I’m probably in the too poor camp to spend the 4k on a gun and maybe that’s why (but not the only reason) why I choose a 2k tikka???? Dunno, but the MRC sure is good lookin’! Just going back and forth looking at pros vs cons for those of us not intending to shoot in a avalanche
 

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A theme that keeps coming up is “proper timing” on the CRF. Any you gunsmith types what tell explain what that means for us simple bolt runners?

Honest question.

Random thought way too late in the game and don’t know if it could work technically, but damn it would be nice if Tikka prefits worked on this action.
 

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It looks like a really cool rifle, though not my taste in a lot of ways. Would potentially be a cool heirloom rifle, but overwhelming odds are no one is going to care about what’s in my safe when I’m gone. I’d be more interested in a made to order rifle (or better yet bare action). The muzzle break, ceracoat, and cartridge choices are all detractors for me, but I’m not the target audience. Now for stainless and wood in an interesting cartridge I might get my checkbook out.


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A theme that keeps coming up is “proper timing” on the CRF. Any you gunsmith types what tell explain what that means for us simple bolt runners?

Honest question.

Random thought way too late in the game and don’t know if it could work technically, but damn it would be nice if Tikka prefits worked on this action.
It is a non event in this case, those mentioning haven’t read the description by Ian of how the barrel interface works
Tikka profits won’t work because they use a different size tenon and thread
 
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IMG_1901.jpeg
Mauser c collar as described in this thread
The extractor slot is on the left as viewed from the front and not a part of the barrel
This allows a flat bolt nose which seats the round deeper in the chamber than the conical bolt nose on the M70.
This is a much safer design.
 

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Listed twist on page 1 has the 22 Creed with a 1-7. Those running 1-7 twisted 22 Creed’s, any issues with bullet RPM and having them come apart?

3100 fps = 319K
3200 fps = 329K

Looking at the 22 Creed threads, there are reported instances of “poof” at these RPMs with Hornady bullets as anything above 300,000 is in the danger zone, probably more so as the throat gets rough.
 

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View attachment 841429
Mauser c collar as described in this thread
The extractor slot is on the left as viewed from the front and not a part of the barrel
This allows a flat bolt nose which seats the round deeper in the chamber than the conical bolt nose on the M70.
This is a much safer design.
Thank you for the photos. The C collar sits between the abutments and the tenon then?

Previous poster talking about timing question. It has been advertised speaking of timing. There are however sever references that can be made to timing. The most important are ming of the cocking cams to the hand off of cocking piece to sear, and handle timing for the best primary extraction. MRC has given no description of than "timing" of the action.
 

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Listed twist on page 1 has the 22 Creed with a 1-7. Those running 1-7 twisted 22 Creed’s, any issues with bullet RPM and having them come apart?

3100 fps = 319K
3200 fps = 329K

Looking at the 22 Creed threads, there are reported instances of “poof” at these RPMs with Hornady bullets as anything above 300,000 is in the danger zone, probably more so as the throat gets rough.
I blew up a few 88gr eldms with a 16" 1:7, around 2950. Barrel had to be hot, like 7-10 rounds in, and it was 95°+ out
 

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View attachment 841429
Mauser c collar as described in this thread
The extractor slot is on the left as viewed from the front and not a part of the barrel
This allows a flat bolt nose which seats the round deeper in the chamber than the conical bolt nose on the M70.
This is a much safer design.

Very cool! Thanks!
Will have to reread those posts a few times
 
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