The All New MRC/S2H Marshall Rifle Now Available

[Formidilosus]

Thousands of rounds, through at least 20 different remington triggers and models, as well as hunting nearly every western state, from 100 degrees to minus 20 degrees. PLENTY of dust (my gun just rides up front in the side and is covered in a tornado of dust constantly) and some cold snowy days as well (could hardly cycle my TI action from the ice layer). Never a SINGLE issue. Sure it may occur at some point, and I might kick myself when it does happen. But until then, I can't make myself lose sleep over it at all, after my own personal experiences with them.

I am getting rid of my Bix N Andy's though. I don't like the adjustable sear at all. You can adjust it light enough that you cock the pin and close the bolt, but if you bump the rifle or action, you can make it go off. Now of course you can set the seat far enough that it won't do that as well. But I just don't like it at all.

I keep being told “I’ve never”, and yet every single time people show up with them, failures happen. First day of class this week- a BAT had a failure to feed on round 2, and a failure to eject on round 18. The shooter cleared the case very quickly, but it still did it. We had them leave the bolt back, and ejection port up while it was snowing. One guy didn’t know or blow out any of the snow in the action (it was nearly full), and chambered it. That compressed the snow and made it basically ice in the lug area. Took a bit of smacking the bolt handle to get it to close in a chambered round, but we got it.




Shooting in this today, it took all of the 1st round to get a case that had to have the bolt banged open to extract, and then round number 2 to get a failure to fire due freezing in an R700




To be fair it did get a little bit of snow on it two days ago (like all the other rifles), got brushed off then set in the enclosed trailer. None of the Tikkas today or yesterday have had failures, nor has the MRC’s had any feed/function issues.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Thousands of rounds, through at least 20 different remington triggers and models, as well as hunting nearly every western state, from 100 degrees to minus 20 degrees. PLENTY of dust (my gun just rides up front in the side and is covered in a tornado of dust constantly) and some cold snowy days as well (could hardly cycle my TI action from the ice layer). Never a SINGLE issue. Sure it may occur at some point, and I might kick myself when it does happen. But until then, I can't make myself lose sleep over it at all, after my own personal experiences with them.

I am getting rid of my Bix N Andy's though. I don't like the adjustable sear at all. You can adjust it light enough that you cock the pin and close the bolt, but if you bump the rifle or action, you can make it go off. Now of course you can set the seat far enough that it won't do that as well. But I just don't like it at all.

Been my experience as well, might happen one day but hasn’t so far.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Been my experience as well, might happen one day but hasn’t so far.
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It's just like with scopes; it doesn't matter till it ***** ya.. then it matters a lot.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

It's just like with scopes; it doesn't matter till it ***** ya.. then it matters a lot.

Haha yea I’m a true believer on the scopes!

 

[huntnful]

I keep being told “I’ve never”, and yet every single time people show up with them, failures happen. First day of class this week- a BAT had a failure to feed on round 2, and a failure to eject on round 18. The shooter cleared the case very quickly, but it still did it. We had them leave the bolt back, and ejection port up while it was snowing. One guy didn’t know or blow out any of the snow in the action (it was nearly full), and chambered it. That compressed the snow and made it basically ice in the lug area. Took a bit of smacking the bolt handle to get it to close in a chambered round, but we got it.

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Shooting in this today, it took all of the 1st round to get a case that had to have the bolt banged open to extract, and then round number 2 to get a failure to fire due freezing in an R700
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To be fair it did get a little bit of snow on it two days ago (like all the other rifles), got brushed off then set in the enclosed trailer. None of the Tikkas today or yesterday have had failures, nor has the MRC’s had any feed/function issues.

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Yeah I’m not saying it’s a lie or conspiracy or anything. Just that it’s never happened to me. You’ve shown the differences and I enjoy the comparisons and the tests. I also don’t leave my bolt open with the port facing up while it’s snowing either. So maybe that’s why I’ve been lucky lol

 

[Ryan Avery]

MRC* lol

The Marshall is an excellent rifle with procedures in place that all "custom" rifles should have at a bare minimum, but they don't. But CRFs and three-position safety aren't my thing. But after seeing how popular their booth was at the hunting expo, I'm pretty sure I am in the minority.

 

[ndlawrence]

The Marshall is an excellent rifle with procedures in place that all "custom" rifles should have at a bare minimum, but they don't. But CRFs and three-position safety aren't my thing. But after seeing how popular their booth was at the hunting expo, I'm pretty sure I am in the minority.

I also don’t like 3pos safety’s… I do wish the Tikka had the bolt release/bypass that the Sako’s have though. That is the best of both worlds IMO.

 

[huntnful]

The Marshall is an excellent rifle with procedures in place that all "custom" rifles should have at a bare minimum, but they don't. But CRFs and three-position safety aren't my thing. But after seeing how popular their booth was at the hunting expo, I'm pretty sure I am in the minority.

Totally understandable. And I definitely agree. I do hope people understand the potential headaches that are eliminated just by the steps they’re taking to put out a legit turn key rifle. I’ve seen guys shoot in circles chasing loose action screws they don’t know about, and I’ve spent a lot of time modifying mags for all these ****** up cartridges I decided to shoot for no real reason other than I get bored haha. And some of them still feed like shit

 

[Ryan Avery]

Totally understandable. And I definitely agree. I do hope people understand the potential headaches that are eliminated just by the steps they’re taking to put out a legit turn key rifle. I’ve seen guys shoot in circles chasing loose action screws they don’t know about, and I’ve spent a lot of time modifying mags for all these ****** up cartridges I decided to shoot for no real reason other than I get bored haha. And some of them still feed like shit

The Marshall and Tikkas feed like a dream outside of a few .223 Tikka mags

 

[huntnful]

The Marshall and Tikkas feed like a dream

The tikkas I’ve shot fed like butter. They’re an awesome platform. I tell all my buddy’s to buy them. I just never got way into them because the cartridges I started with wouldn’t fit in one. Now I’m just blindly committed to shitty triggers, actions and mags, and have to say a small prayer before every bolt cycle and every trigger press on an animal hahaha. My day will come, and when it does…. I ain’t telling you guys shit . Until then though, plug your ears, cause this muzzle break is loud AF

 

[Ryan Avery]

The tikkas I’ve shot fed like butter. They’re an awesome platform. I tell all my buddy’s to buy them. I just never got way into them because the cartridges I started with wouldn’t fit in one. Now I’m just blindly committed to shitty triggers, actions and mags, and have to say a small prayer before every bolt cycle and every trigger press on an animal hahaha. My day will come, and when it does…. I ain’t telling you guys shit . Until then though, plug your ears, cause this muzzle break is loud AF

Oh... you're gonna tell us. You won't be able to help yourself. HAHA!

 

[HighUintas]

@huntnful , I bet it will happen at some point. My Tikka trigger went haywire after a couple days of hunting in freezing rain/snow. Left it outside of my tent overnight both nights under a tree so as to not cause condensation inside the gun. The firing pin would release when closing the bolt... It seemed there was ice in the trigger spring cavity not allowing the trigger sear to be properly engaged. It took at least 45 minutes to ert it working properly. I had an aftermarket trigger spring in it with it set to about 1.5lb. I think, but not sure, that it would have been prevented or at least easier/faster to get it working if I'd had the factory trigger spring in it since it's stronger and may have held the trigger in proper position. But, I'll never know for sure unless I duplicate the event.

It will eventually get you!

 

[HighUintas]

I keep being told “I’ve never”, and yet every single time people show up with them, failures happen. First day of class this week- a BAT had a failure to feed on round 2, and a failure to eject on round 18. The shooter cleared the case very quickly, but it still did it. We had them leave the bolt back, and ejection port up while it was snowing. One guy didn’t know or blow out any of the snow in the action (it was nearly full), and chambered it. That compressed the snow and made it basically ice in the lug area. Took a bit of smacking the bolt handle to get it to close in a chambered round, but we got it.

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Shooting in this today, it took all of the 1st round to get a case that had to have the bolt banged open to extract, and then round number 2 to get a failure to fire due freezing in an R700
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To be fair it did get a little bit of snow on it two days ago (like all the other rifles), got brushed off then set in the enclosed trailer. None of the Tikkas today or yesterday have had failures, nor has the MRC’s had any feed/function issues.

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This looks like good fun. I was thinking hard about signing up for this one this year. I may have to do a little more convincing on my wife for next winter's class.

 

[Castle Rock]

This looks like good fun. I was thinking hard about signing up for this one this year.

I think I would rather go to the dentist, give me heat and dust any day

 

[WTFJohn]

Idk, I hear the stories, but not my experience.

I've shot 1 and 2 day field matches in Montana, Wyo, ND, east Washington, lots of dust and dirt, rain, mud, I've had mags go down from mud and wet grime in them, but never a rem700 trigger go down. Over the last 5-6 years, it's around 10-12k rounds total. I carry a spare trigger as well as other spare parts, but I haven't needed it, or any them for that matter, I must be lucky, or I need to pump my numbers up and shoot more.

I don't get out a lot in freezing rain, or blizzard where my gun lays in a snow bank over night. That seems like a common thing on here, not in my neck of the woods tho.

I can be a counterpoint to that. In the last three hunting seasons alone, I have had two R700 triggers/rifles fail on hunts due to cold/freezing temps/snow. Only once while practicing in that same time frame.

#1- 4 days into a backpack hunt with temps hitting -10* or so at night. Rifle was locked up when I went to shoot a bull. Ended up pulling the bolt and keeping it in my jacket to warm it enough to function.

#2- Hunting with a Rokslider on a very late season hunt (January). We belly crawled the final 30 or so yards through the snow to get into position, then waited for a shot opportunity. It took hammering the bolt open by hand, then cycling 15-20x to get it freed up enough to shoot.

It could also be said that I am not the smartest when it comes to (staying out of) cold weather. I ended up laying in 18" of snow for an hour this year waiting on a herd to feed into a place where I could shoot one. With completely numb fingers, I short-stroked the bolt and got a fun double feed after my first shot. Still haven't regained feeling a month later in three of those fingers.

 

[Bluumoon]

I keep being told “I’ve never”, and yet every single time people show up with them, failures happen. First day of class this week- a BAT had a failure to feed on round 2, and a failure to eject on round 18. The shooter cleared the case very quickly, but it still did it. We had them leave the bolt back, and ejection port up while it was snowing. One guy didn’t know or blow out any of the snow in the action (it was nearly full), and chambered it. That compressed the snow and made it basically ice in the lug area. Took a bit of smacking the bolt handle to get it to close in a chambered round, but we got it.

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Shooting in this today, it took all of the 1st round to get a case that had to have the bolt banged open to extract, and then round number 2 to get a failure to fire due freezing in an R700
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To be fair it did get a little bit of snow on it two days ago (like all the other rifles), got brushed off then set in the enclosed trailer. None of the Tikkas today or yesterday have had failures, nor has the MRC’s had any feed/function issues.

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A few of the new items there. What barrel is the Master Sporter wearing now?

 

[HandgunHTR]

Haha...you can double up on whitetails in the morning, and still have enough bullets in the mag for the afternoon hunt.

You need to go on a depredation WT/hog hunt in a GA peanut field sometime.
The first time I went with a Remage using a BDL config. I think I single loaded more times than I filled the mag. Second time I went with a Tikka. Still ended up single loading a couple of times.
Now I use an AR with 27 or 30 round mags.

 

[Formidilosus]

A few of the new items there. What barrel is the Master Sporter wearing now?

That one isn’t mine.

 

[Formidilosus]

Yeah I’m not saying it’s a lie or conspiracy or anything. Just that it’s never happened to me. You’ve shown the differences and I enjoy the comparisons and the tests. I also don’t leave my bolt open with the port facing up while it’s snowing either. So maybe that’s why I’ve been lucky lol

Oh no, I wasn’t saying you were or doubting you. It was a “‘shrug’, I don’t know what to say, because it keeps happening in front of me/us, by people that swear it never does”.

Also, the bolt open thing with packed snow in the chamber was a Tikka. The issues with the R700 patterns were before the actions being opened. I had everyone open them and let snow in, just to see if any of the other guns failed.

 

[Carl Ross]

I can definitely see the Marshall and Gunwerks options as occupying a version of the same niche in the gun world. Specifically, for someone who want’s to buy a rifle where someone else already did all the homework. (Obviously, the focus of that homework is a little different between the options)

For someone like myself who’s happy to order a prefit barrel to my spec then install it, order stocks or chassis’s, do some stock bedding and modification, tweak the headspace on my ammo to match whatever the chamber ended up at, having someone else do my homework isn’t useless but isn’t a giant value add. If I really wanted what’s offered by the CRF/Mauser action, I suppose that could justify the cost to a guy like me.

The more ideal customer for the Marshall I see being someone who isn’t a gun guy, but who want’s a GOOD rifle that isn’t going to have issues. Someone who wants something that just works, and doesn’t mind paying for it. I talk with those types of guys pretty often. Instead of giving them a list of parts and then helping them go through and assemble everything correctly (along with all the inevitable troubleshooting), I can see just recommending they buy a Marshall. Aside from swapping the brake for a can, if it is what they say it is, it should be a turn key solution that’s ready to zero, dope, and use heavily.




Regarding triggers, in maybe ~ 40,000 rds in the last decade with Rem 700 pattern triggers I’ve had two issues I can recall, both at matches. The first, on a 10 F degree day tossed a cased rifle brought from inside into an open truck bed and drove an hour to a match. The Timney Calvin Elite wouldn’t drop the firing pin when my first stage started. Thawed it in the cab for ~ 15 minutes and it was fine. The second, a crazy wind storm came through and got dust everywhere and into everything. The TT Diamond stopped holding the pin back until it was flushed with lighter fluid. To be fair, a high percentage of those rounds (though not all) have been fair weather and easy conditions.

The most memorable Rem 700 trigger failure I know of isn’t my own but a friends. It involves a 700 that would go off as the safety was flipped to fire, packing a mule deer out of the Bob in a blizzard, and a grizzly. It ultimately ended up fine, but pretty sure he swapped that trigger out in short order.