The All New MRC/S2H Marshall Rifle Now Available

[HighUintas]

I get that it’s a different mold. It’s taking away bandwidth from outstanding orders and places of arguably higher demand. I took a six month break from RS. When I left, everything was out of stock, you couldn’t order new stocks or quite a few accessories, and guys were still waiting on orders from 9 months earlier. I came back from my sabbatical and nothing has changed except a bunch of side projects.

My Tikka is chopped, threaded, in a rokstok with an arca/pic. I think I’ve got $650 in the rifle, $500 in the stock, maybe $150 for chopping and threading. A muzzle brake is funny. DBM and cerakote I have no need or interest in. Seems like a niche market with some extra fluff. I’m pretty damn practical. I’m into my tikkas for half of this cost, and I’m willing to bet they will go toe to toe with this. I shoot around 1.1 10 round groups in all three rifles. It just won’t look as cool.

Regardless, it’s frustrating to see side projects like this rather than focusing on fulfilling existing orders. I want to buy two more Rokstoks and you can’t even order them. My son turns 18 in August 26 and I’m legitimately wondering if I can even get a Rostock delivered by spring 26 in time for range practice.

It’s not my business, they can clearly run it however they want. This and the wooden sticks and some of the other stuff that I’m catching up on are head scratchers for me, as a customer and outsider.

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You're willing to do that work yourself, and your Tikka is not CRF. The value of this gun is that it is 100% done. No need to even check action screw torque. It's a CRF that's been cycled for 100 rounds to ensure function. With a 10 shot QC group. It's an off the shelf ready to go gun, other than mounting your scope. There is literally no other place you'll find this type of gun for sale unless you order it custom.

Our rokslide special Tikkas are not a valid comparison to this gun whatsoever.

I'd get a couple but can't afford it and will have to stick with my DIY Tikkas for the time being that shoot just as good

 

[gbflyer]

I am unaware of another CRF being made today with the correct trigger. Maybe Granite Mountain??? Even if so, the $3800 probably wouldn’t buy the action alone. And it’s wild how light they got the MRC…I’ve built a couple push feeds with carbon McMillan stocks and can’t figure out how to do it. As soon as the lefty comes out I’m a customer. So you righty’s need to buy lots and lots of rifles to subsidize us southpaws

 

[Billy Goat]

The value of this gun is that it is 100% done.

To be fair, that's what it's supposed to be, but that's an unknown at this point.

Lot of issues with the evaluation fun that was sent out, hopefully the QC process will eliminate issues, but it's still up in the air.

 

[atmat]

My Tikka is chopped, threaded, in a rokstok with an arca/pic. I think I’ve got $650 in the rifle, $500 in the stock, maybe $150 for chopping and threading.

I get this and said the same thing. Ultimately, though, I bought the MRC for a couple reasons ranked below in order of priority:

1) Supporting a gun company in America who wants to do it right
2) Controlled feed
3) Integral pic rail

 

[MuleyFever]

You're willing to do that work yourself, and your Tikka is not CRF. The value of this gun is that it is 100% done. No need to even check action screw torque. It's a CRF that's been cycled for 100 rounds to ensure function. With a 10 shot QC group. It's an off the shelf ready to go gun, other than mounting your scope. There is literally no other place you'll find this type of gun for sale unless you order it custom.

Our rokslide special Tikkas are not a valid comparison to this gun whatsoever.

I'd get a couple but can't afford it and will have to stick with my DIY Tikkas for the time being that shoot just as good

I dont know, he has a valid point. I can buy a Tikka and a stock and drop it off at gunsmith to get the barrel done and get a 100% done rifle that will shoot just as good for less than half the price. I get that the CRF is nice but what issue is there really with the Tikka action? I agree the rifle is nice and has great features but for the money its not vastly superior to a Tikka. If I thought I needed to spend $4k on a rifle then sure, I would probably consider ordering this one. There are plenty of people in that market so I hope they sell a ton of rifles and are successful.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

I have to say - there's a couple things here that are a tad bothersome.

One is the assertion or tone that CRF is now the only acceptable thing. As if Tikkas all of a sudden don't work since push feed. CRF is great. It is not impossible to use something else in the field. That goes for Gunwerks and the rest of the rem clones. There's valid drawbacks highlighted. But let's pump the breaks on "this is the only way" tone that keeps bleeding through here. It's cool, unique, and there's a lot of benefits, but some of these posts appear pretty over the top.

The lumping of all gunsmiths as lego builders as some have done is a tad one dimensional. There's some solid craftsman out there. Questioning what value, for a HUNTING rifle their insane attention to tolerances and detail is certainly a worthwhile discussion for the $ and time.

I am personally intruiged by a barreled action of the MRC platform discussed here, not as much the build itself. Tikkas are still cool. R700s have their limits but are not useless.

I just don't see a ton of reasonable back and forth here, more extremes, and felt the need to note some of the over-hyped language in here.

Edit to say: I thought Form's take was a lot more reasonable on the rifle build in the lastest pod, when talking about it in comparison to Tikka, etc.

 

[atmat]

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[TheCougar]

@HighUintas

“Our rokslide special Tikkas are not a valid comparison to this gun whatsoever.”

This is where we will have to agree to disagree. I compare the rifles based on function. I have a lot of rounds through about a half dozen tikkas (and I’ll freely admit that some shooters in RS shoot more before my morning BM than I shoot in a year) and I’ve never had a misfeed or misfire. I don’t own a tikka that shoots worse than 1.1MOA. The stainless steel doesn’t wear off. To me a 100% feed and function rate and excellent accuracy, along with the overwhelming sample size of others is a valid comparison. CRF, which I’m not even exactly clear on why it’s so great, can’t improve on 100%.

 

[TheCougar]

I have to say - there's a couple things here that are a tad bothersome.

One is the assertion or tone that CRF is now the only acceptable thing. As if Tikkas all of a sudden don't work since push feed. CRF is great. It is not impossible to use something else in the field. That goes for Gunwerks and the rest of the rem clones. There's valid drawbacks highlighted. But let's pump the breaks on "this is the only way" tone that keeps bleeding through here. It's cool, unique, and there's a lot of benefits, but some of these posts appear pretty over the top.

The lumping of all gunsmiths as lego builders as some have done is a tad one dimensional. There's some solid craftsman out there. Questioning what value, for a HUNTING rifle their insane attention to tolerances and detail is certainly a worthwhile discussion for the $ and time.

I am personally intruiged by a barreled action of the MRC platform discussed here, not as much the build itself. Tikkas are still cool. R700s have their limits but are not useless.

I just don't see a ton of reasonable back and forth here, more extremes, and felt the need to note some of the over-hyped language in here.

Edit to say: I thought Form's take was a lot more reasonable on the rifle build in the lastest pod, when talking about it in comparison to Tikka, etc.

If I was trying to be unreasonable, I would have posted memes!

 

[HighUintas]

@HighUintas

“Our rokslide special Tikkas are not a valid comparison to this gun whatsoever.”

This is where we will have to agree to disagree. I compare the rifles based on function. I have a lot of rounds through about a half dozen tikkas (and I’ll freely admit that some shooters in RS shoot more before my morning BM than I shoot in a year) and I’ve never had a misfeed or misfire. I don’t own a tikka that shoots worse than 1.1MOA. The stainless steel doesn’t wear off. To me a 100% feed and function rate and excellent accuracy, along with the overwhelming sample size of others is a valid comparison. CRF, which I’m not even exactly clear on why it’s so great, can’t improve on 100%.

I'm not saying Tikkas aren't great. I love mine and likely will continue to only use them. They're flexible platforms, lots of aftermarket support, accurate, takeoff barrels are accurate and affordable, the factory stock is way more than sufficient.

My primary point is that for the person who needs or wants a CRF and doesn't want to do anything other than mount a scope out of the box, I think these guns are it. For this person, I think the value reconciles the price tag.

I don't need a CRF however I see the benefits. I jammed my 223 Tikka last week because I double pumped the bolt when I thought I didn't pull it back far enough the first time. That's more user error than need. I primarily want a Marshall because it is unique and I want to support their effort. I don't actually need one.

 

[HighUintas]

One is the assertion or tone that CRF is now the only acceptable thing. As if Tikkas all of a sudden don't work since push feed. CRF is great. It is not impossible to use something else in the field. That goes for Gunwerks and the rest of the rem clones. There's valid drawbacks highlighted. But let's pump the breaks on "this is the only way" tone that keeps bleeding through here.

I don't think I've seen anyone in here imply CRF is the only way. I interpret the back and forth as there being a lot of differing opinions on what the value of this rifle is.

Not everyone wants or needs this particular offering, but for those that do, I think it's pretty cool and different than what is currently offered

 

[Bluumoon]

@HighUintas

“Our rokslide special Tikkas are not a valid comparison to this gun whatsoever.”

This is where we will have to agree to disagree. I compare the rifles based on function. I have a lot of rounds through about a half dozen tikkas (and I’ll freely admit that some shooters in RS shoot more before my morning BM than I shoot in a year) and I’ve never had a misfeed or misfire. I don’t own a tikka that shoots worse than 1.1MOA. The stainless steel doesn’t wear off. To me a 100% feed and function rate and excellent accuracy, along with the overwhelming sample size of others is a valid comparison. CRF, which I’m not even exactly clear on why it’s so great, can’t improve on 100%.

I shot the MRC in its original configuration last spring. Very smooth action, very good trigger. It felt very much like the Tikkas I was shooting in all the right ways. Worth giving an American made rifle a go when I wanted a new cartridge.

If I can truly drop a single feed round in and slam it home, that might be the biggest difference I’ll ever notice in use, vs fighting it w the Tikkas. I’m not experienced enough to know what else I might be missing.

The Tikkas aren’t going anywhere, we’ll find out which rifle gets grabbed for hunting.

 

[HighUintas]

If I can truly drop a single feed round in and slam it home, that might be the biggest difference I’ll ever notice in use, vs fighting it w the Tikkas. I’m not experienced enough to know what else I might be missing.

Didn't know you could do that. That is a nice touch!

I would at least like to get my hands on one to fondle sometime

 

[ElPollo]

Guys, don’t overthink this. Lots of people want custom actions and custom rifles that are in every way less dependable than a stock Tikka, albeit cooler looking. This action is one that is actually marginally better, it definitely has all the custom rifle good looks, and its on the inexpensive side for custom and semi-custom rifles. If there’s a market for Gunwerks R700 clones, there’s certainly a market for this. If you’re happy modifying your Tikkas, this rifle may not be directed at you.

 

[Skydog]

If I can truly drop a single feed round in and slam it home, that might be the biggest difference I’ll ever notice in use, vs fighting it w the Tikkas. I’m not experienced enough to know what else I might be missing.

Didn't know you could do that. That is a nice touch!

Just curious...What is the need/purpose for single feeding rounds rather than feeding them from the magazine?

And why would a CRF be preferred over a push feed for single feeding?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

One is the assertion or tone that CRF is now the only acceptable thing. As if Tikkas all of a sudden don't work since push feed. CRF is great. It is not impossible to use something else in the field. But let's pump the breaks on "this is the only way" tone that keeps bleeding through here.

Who is saying this and where? I haven’t seen or heard this “assertion” anywhere on Rokslide but I may have missed it.

 

[Sadler]

Who is saying this and where? I haven’t seen or heard this “assertion” anywhere on Rokslide but I may have missed it.

Not sure but I do remember a podcast a while back where CRF was kinda ragged on.

Anyways, when I want a new rifle I’ll give these a hard look if I can get one in a wood rokstok. The fact that it’s a USA made rifle is important to me and I’ll pay the premium.

 

[Castle Rock]

Good question. Whatever they did must work if it passed the 100 round test.


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I imagine that it is operating as a push feed out of the AI magazines which is technically functioning, but not functioning as a CRF

 

[MT_Wyatt]

I don't think I've seen anyone in here imply CRF is the only way. I interpret the back and forth as there being a lot of differing opinions on what the value of this rifle is.

Not everyone wants or needs this particular offering, but for those that do, I think it's pretty cool and different than what is currently offered

I went ahead and re-read everything and agree, what's written in this thread is not as extreme as it seemed in first glance. I've edited my most to strike that in recognition.

I agree - it isn't for everyone and it is cool this is a decidely different offering than most.

The back and forth on the value is indeed where most of the disagreement seems to be.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

Who is saying this and where? I haven’t seen or heard this “assertion” anywhere on Rokslide but I may have missed it.

see post #119. I think I conflated some of the discussion in the pod thread with what is in here, on 2nd reading.