The 22 creedmoor thread

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I've shot the wolfhunter and scythe w/223 end cap side by side. The wolfhunter on a 22-250 was noticeably quieter than the scythe on a 223.
I bet that has a lot to do with the brake on the scythe.
22-250 doesn't have much recoil to begin with so idk if you could tell a difference there.

My harvester gen 1 with the brake has noticeably less recoil on my 3006 then with the ab raptor.
 

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I bet that has a lot to do with the brake on the scythe.
22-250 doesn't have much recoil to begin with so idk if you could tell a difference there.

My harvester gen 1 with the brake has noticeably less recoil on my 3006 then with the ab raptor.
The brake wasn't on the scythe. It was just a 223 flat end cap.
 

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I’m getting the parts together for my 22 creed and wanted to see if anyone has used a raptor 8 on their 22 creeds. I emailed AB a while ago and they stated that the 22 creed falls under the “magnum” cartridges for barrel length restrictions. Has anyone used a raptor 8 on a 22 creed with an 18” barrel?
I’d rather not have a 22” barrel with a suppressor.
 

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3 more whitetail does with 75 eldm this weekend

1) 650 yards broadside. Small entry, double lung, traveled 10 feet, on its feet less than 10 seconds, lungs jellied, part of the jacket made it to the offside.

2) 320 yards broadside. hit low on the front shoulder into the leg area and made the loudest impact i’ve ever heard. Absolutely destroyed front leg and did not made it into the vitals. She traveled ~100 yards and I shot again at 400 quartering away. entered gut and made it to liver and a lung. (not a great wind call) Required a 3rd shot to the head.

3) 110 yards broadside. Top of the heart and lungs, traveled 15 yards and flopped then recovered, kneeling. Second shot was into the lungs. Second shot was likely not needed but as thick as our place is and with a ~10 animal track record of zero blood trails with the combo, it wasn’t worth the risk.

The results this year with the combo have spoken for themselves. ~10 big game ranging from small whitetail does to aoudad, oryx, mule deer. Very consistent combo. No blood trails, a good amount of internal trauma, no exits, will go through a shoulder no problem but the thicker bones tend to grenade the bullets and cause a lot of meat damage. Will be doing my best to stay off bones and try to keep to shots that give me the ability to watch the deer sized animal run for ~50-100 yards if possible.

Shot a scimitar yesterday and made the personal decision to shoot a larger bullet (147eldm-6.5prc) . Would the 75eldm/22 have done the trick? Maybe, probably, but my data set has shown me the round has its place and as mental as hunting can be for me, i’d like all of the confidence I can get.

Ironically, I retrieved a nosler accubond from the scimitar from a hunter’s terrible shot placement a few months back. At the end of the day, shot placement is king and the 22 creed is confidence inspiring and allows easy, quick follow up shots.
 
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2) 320 yards broadside. hit low on the front shoulder into the leg area and made the loudest impact i’ve ever heard. Absolutely destroyed front leg and did not made it into the vitals. She traveled ~100 yards and I shot again at 400 quartering away. entered gut and made it to liver and a lung. (not a great wind call) Required a 3rd shot to the head.

Did the leg stop it on way to vitals or was it too low/forward?
 

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Did the leg stop it on way to vitals or was it too low/forward?
I wouldn’t say the leg STOPPED it, but it felt obvious that there would not have been significant penetration. I will look back and see if I snapped a picture. I tend to not take many pictures when my hands are covered in blood.

It was the first time I thought “man, a heavier bonded or thicker jacketed bullet would have been better in this situation”
 

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I wouldn’t say the leg STOPPED it, but it felt obvious that there would not have been significant penetration. I will look back and see if I snapped a picture. I tend to not take many pictures when my hands are covered in blood.

It was the first time I thought “man, a heavier bonded or thicker jacketed bullet would have been better in this situation”
Might be time to go up to the 80's or 88. You definitely have the case capacity for them.

Jay
 

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Might be time to go up to the 80's or 88. You definitely have the case capacity for them.

Jay
ironically, the 147 eldm had the exact same wound characteristics on the larger animal. Through the tougher hide, into the shoulder through the heart and part of the jacket broke a rib and lodged in the offside hide. I think i’d love an 80ish grain bullet with similar internal damage to the eldm but could produce an exit for a bit better blood trail if needed. Not sure if it exists yet.
 

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ironically, the 147 eldm had the exact same wound characteristics on the larger animal. Through the tougher hide, into the shoulder through the heart and part of the jacket broke a rib and lodged in the offside hide. I think i’d love an 80ish grain bullet with similar internal damage to the eldm but could produce an exit for a bit better blood trail if needed. Not sure if it exists yet.
I think that some guys are seeing more exits with the 80 ELDX. I hope to have a bolt action 22 ARC soon and hope that with the extra weight and little slower speeds that the 88 ELDM will have enough remaining to provide consistent upset with an exit.

Jay
 
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